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To: 4CJ
The validity of such was attested to by Roger B. Taney, Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court. By former Justice Benjamin R. Curtis - no fan of Taney. By Baltimore Mayor George W. Brown. By Ward Lamon, Lincoln's intimate and the federal marshal charged with the warrant. IIRC, both justices Nelson and Campbell were aware of the warrant as well. I think the reason it was not served is due to the respect and esteem that Lamon held for Taney.

Curtis and Brown rely on hearsay from Taney himself, not an unbiased source. Lamon's account may be open to question since so much of his biography was written by others. The long and short of it is that there is not a single solid piece of evidence supporting the tale. As historians like James Simon discovered as they wrote their books like "Lincoln and Chief Justice Taney: Slavery, Secession, and the President's War Powers". The myth is kept alive by people like you.

The US Supreme Court ruled his extra-constitutional actions illegal in ex parte Milligan.

And what did the confederate supreme court think of the extra-constitutional acts of Jefferson Davis...oh wait...never mind.

Could you provide a link? In the CSA the Postal Department made a profit, unlike the Union departments constant losses.

Prior to the rebellion, as Alexander Stephens pointed out, the Post Office in every part of the country except the South made money. The Southern postal system had to be subsidized to the tune of millions of dollars each year. And once Davis was in the post office did break even...because of outrageous postal rates. In the beginning rates were 5 cents per 1/2 oz under 500 miles, 10 cents per 1/2 oz over 500 miles, and 2 cents drop letter and circulars. Comperable US rates were 3 cents per 1/2 oz under 3000 miles and 1 cent drop letters and circulars. Confederate rates skyrocketed during the war until the average person couldn't afford to mail a letter. Which suppressed the mails to a certain extent.

...they fought for liberty from a despotic union, one in which yankees had been fomenting war and aggression since the ink was barely dry on the Constitution.

ROTFLMAO!!!

142 posted on 07/24/2007 5:05:37 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Ahhh, Mr. 'My g21ancestors oozed out of the slime and oozed into my family'. Good morning.

Curtis and Brown rely on hearsay from Taney himself, not an unbiased source.

Any proof that Curtis, Brown, Nelson and Campbell heard it from Taney?

Lamon's account may be open to question since so much of his biography was written by others.

So you're saying that Lamon made it up, Mr. Black his wife/daughter, or someone else? Me, I prefer to believe the Chief Justice. Who also informed Mayor Brown that he - Brown - would also be arrested.

Taney had to learn of it from someone, I mean, Lincoln arrested other federal justices. During his administration the military fixed the 1864 election, even arresting union officers (one was Benjamin F. Sells, arrested 1 Oct 1863 because he stated, 'I am going to vote for Vallandigham, and so are all my company.'). Only those swearing to vote for Lincoln were allowed passes, and the military 'guarded' the polling booths to suppress non lincoln voters.

The myth is kept alive by people like you.

The OR is replete with orders for the arrest of editors, judges, lawyers, children, priests, congressmen, ex-governors, and anyone else not toeing the party line.

Of course, the Lincoln administration swearing out a warrant to be used at the discretion of the server is not without precedent. From the report of General John A. Dix to Secretary Stanton, 25 Jun 1862:

In October [3 Oct 1861] last I was authorized by the Secretary of State to arrest Judge R. B. Carmichael of [Talbot County] the Eastern Shore of Maryland, if I should deem it expedient ... and if necessary in his own Court.
The judge was later arrested. I'll believe that Taney was simply one of thousands upon thousands ordered to be arrested during the reign of a madman and despot.
143 posted on 07/25/2007 7:45:37 AM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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