Posted on 07/17/2007 2:30:26 AM PDT by balch3
It is dangerous to make false claims that are easily verifiable... and that's the biggest bunch of revisionist bunkum I've ever read.
First, the Papacy had enormous influence over "rulers of the day." So, when, for example, Innocent III publicly ordered a crusade to exterminate the Albigensian heretics, the more pious "rulers of the day" were happy to comply.
Second, you're forgetting that the Pope himself was one of the "Rulers of the Day." Up until the unification of Italy in the late 19th century, the Pope controlled a country, the Papal States, in which the death penalty was frequently administered for heresy. One, of many possible examples: the scientist Giordano Bruno, burned at the stake by the Church, in Rome, in 1600.
Maybe you should learn a little more about what you're talking about before you go pontificating (no pun intended) to others.
Yet the theories behind evolution may be testable. The basic premise of ID - God did it - is not.
I try to.
I try not to kill, to lie etc... therefore I practice foregiveness... you know all the catchy stuff you could write on a single sheet of paper that is basic to good manners and behaviour.
But most of the bible is political - full of contradictions, written by so many people that followed so many ideas of how a scociety might work or should work -
-it’s nearly impossible not to life by it. Because it’s so wage.
And thenyou wrote:
+++ Have you quit eating meat, are you growing your own organic veggies, recycling your urine back into drinking water? Have you sold your car and stopped using electricity because YOU are destroying the earth, causing “global warming”? Have you donated money to the “save the Sahara desert” project? +++
No I am not personally recycling my urine. That’s what our cities sludge treatment is for. I do eat meat and I grow some veggies that I don’t bother to poison (an old sort of tomatoe - very tasty but with a tender skin - so it wouldn’t be marketable). I am using a car but I don ‘t posses one. Electricity is still my friend and what on earth is the sahara desert project ?
And one more question - what are these questions about ?
that’s but a nice tagline....
“The Lord works in myterious ways.”
But not really in ths case. Genesis 1 tells us how He did it, and he did not use evolution at all.
Your problem is, that scientists are human and fail ? Well that’s why science is so great - because the principle of science is, as I said, proof and verification.
Therefore a scientific hoax is quite a short lived one, whereas the pope can’t fail.
Glad you went through this POS so I didn’t have to.
What exactly is the theory of “Intelligent Designer”?
The author is a nutcase with demonstratably has ZERO knowledge or understanding of Evloution.
“The Lord works in myterious ways.”
But not really in ths case. Genesis 1 tells us how He did it, and he did not use evolution at all.
yes genesis 1..right.
stories past down from one sandle wearer to another with all of the inaccuracies of word of mouth and finally written on goat parchment for all to enjoy.
sure.
“In fact I’ll bet you can’t come up with one documented example.”
Giordano Bruno
Both are chock full of holes, yet are trumpeted as untouchable by their adherents who claim they have been settled by "scientific consensus". Unfortunately for them, the facts don't bear them out, only their own assumptions do.
It's all there in Gen. 1 eh? Only a few hundred words to describe the origin of the entire universe?
They say a picture is worth a thousand words. But Christians claim that the creation of the entire universe and all species that live in it can be described in a few hundred words.
It takes real faith to accept such a claim.
I don't mean to rub your nose in your mistake, but even a cursory investigation would have shown that you're 100% wrong.
The Papal Synod of Verona established execution by burning as the standard Papal-sanctioned punishment for heresy.
This was affirmed later by the Fourth Lateran Council and the Synod of Toulouse and was a feature of Canon Law until the formal re-codification in the early 20th century.
We both named the same case. In the event Nathan thinks this was the only case (it was most certainly not), he is welcome to examine other cases: Diego de Enzinas, Guillaume Bélibaste, Carlos Ometochtzin are three more. But there are a great many. It is unbelievably absurd to claim that the Church never ordered the execution of anybody for heresy, when burning at the stake was an official punishment for heresy in canon law for nearly a thousand years.
Idiot. Only a person who attended Iowa State would believe that a K5 red-orange giant could support lagamorphs OF ANY COLOR! Clearly (and rather obviously, I think) they are from Alpha Leporis.
I probably should have read the whole thread before I put in my two cents, but as you have stated, there are a great many well documented examples of this taking place. I was quite surprised to read Nathan’s comment.
I'd be a lot more impressed with this galoot if he actually knew what he was criticizing
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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