To: from occupied ga; Beelzebubba
Woo-hoo! Its about time that we get this issue resolved.
What makes you think that the supremes will hear the case or more importantly find in favor of the individual right?
I think that it's extremely logical that they'll hear the case, since it's an important constitutional issue that, at the moment, has a split in the lower court rulings--the DC court having ruled one way, and other courts of approximately equal status having ruled the other way.
That they'll find in favor of the individual right? I don't think any of us have a good enough crystal ball for that, but I think it'd be cowardly not to try. It's the best court we've had in a long time.
Note that a court ruling against the Second Amendment would not be nearly as disastrous as some of the posters here imply. Basically, it'd be a ruling for the unfortunate status quo--that whether or not people own guns, and what sort of guns they can own is left up to individual states, cities, and communities. What's been keeping those states, cities, and communities from grabbing guns hasn't been fear of the Second Amendment, it's been fear of being voted out of office. That won't change.
So, as I see it, it's a gamble, where a win wins big, and a loss gives us a hard slap in the face but doesn't change anything to speak of. That's worth trying.
44 posted on
07/16/2007 9:08:22 AM PDT by
Mariebl
To: Mariebl
I think that it's extremely logical that they'll hear the case, since it's an important constitutional issue that, at the momeThe supremes have been avoiding 2nd amend issues for decades. I'd be surprised if they heard this one.
Note that a court ruling against the Second Amendment would not be nearly as disastrous as some of the posters here imply
I disagree
50 posted on
07/16/2007 9:14:41 AM PDT by
from occupied ga
(Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
To: Mariebl
Note that a court ruling against the Second Amendment would not be nearly as disastrous as some of the posters here imply. Not sure about that. As it stands, there is (aside from post-'86 machineguns) practically no gun ban on the federal level. The AWB having expired, the DC ban was about it - and very limited geography at that.
A ruling against RKBA would tell Congress they CAN ban the heck out of things (if you can't have a functioning gun in your home, nearly all other restrictions are more "reasonable") and our opposition would be hugely motivated. We'd also lose any chance to get the 2nd "incorporated to the states".
Of course, SCOTUS specializes in unpredictably bizzare rulings.
53 posted on
07/16/2007 9:17:24 AM PDT by
ctdonath2
(The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
To: Mariebl
Additionally, having the anti-freedom side represented by the incompentent DC cronyocracy is a plus for the pro-freedom side....
82 posted on
07/16/2007 9:44:38 AM PDT by
steve-b
(It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
To: Mariebl
"the DC court having ruled one way, and other courts of approximately equal status having ruled the other way." By "other courts" you're of course referring to the First, Second, Third, Fourth, Sixth, Seventh, Eighth, Ninth, Tenth, and Eleventh Circuit Courts, all ruling in dozens of cases that the second amendment does not protect an individual right. And the Fifth Circuit overturned no law.
So it's 11-1 against.
"What's been keeping those states, cities, and communities from grabbing guns hasn't been fear of the Second Amendment, it's been fear of being voted out of office"
Close. What's been keeping those states, cities, and communities from grabbing guns hasn't been fear of the Second Amendment, it's been fear of being voted out of office by the NRA claiming the second amendment protects an individual right.
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