DEBKAfile Exclusive: ... closing in on al Qaeda’s No. 2 Ayman Zawahiri and possibly also OBL

http://www.debka.org/ ^ | July 15, 2007, 10:47 PM (GMT+02:00) | debka

[angkor]

Can’t vouch for Debka (an understatement), but I do recall that in the final hours of the Red Mosque seige, there were several mentions that the only people remaining alive in inside were non-Pakistani Arabs. Some kids who were being held hostage said the Arabs were with them in the basement, then they were suddenly gone, apparently through a tunnel to an adjacent property.

So the notion that these guys were mostly al Qaeda (which I heard and read being expressed by Pakistanis) is likely to be true.

The only people supporting and celebrating the actions of the Red Mosque terrorists were the (primitive and barbaric) Waziris, who were being roundly criticized by other Pakistanis (my news sources that day had been FR, the realtime forum at paktribune.com, and a couple English-language realtime news feeds from Pakistani TV).

Bottom line is that AQ has probably lost a great deal of sympathy in Pakistan, at least among thinking people.

[RightWhale]

Anything is possible, especially from DEBKA.

[Our man in washington]

Another poster on another thread (don’t have time to search) pointed out that the quotation was from one of the last messages from Mohammed telling his followers that he might not be around long.

That was me. Here's the post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1865481/posts?page=18#18

[reagan_fanatic]

Well, taking into consideration that it’s Debka, my hopes of catching either of these two demons just went up by .02%

[nmh]

Thanks.

YOu are very informed.

[nmh]

To: Sub-Driver
Here’s one possibility. Here’s a paragraph from Muhammad’s last sermon:

Ye people! Listen to my words: I will deliver a message to you, for I know not whether, after this year, I shall ever be amongst you here again. O people! verily your blood, your property and your honor are sacred and inviolable until you appear before your Lord, as this day and this month are sacred for all. Verily you will meet your Lord and you will be held answerable for your actions. Have I not conveyed the message? O Allah! Be my witness. He who has any trust with him, should restore it to the person who deposited it with him. Beware, no one committing a crime is responsible for it but he himself. Neither the son is responsible for the crime of his father, nor the father responsible for the crime of his son.

Who knows what it means? Maybe Zawahiri is not well.

18 posted on 07/13/2007 10:32:24 AM PDT by Our man in washington

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1865481/posts?page=18#18

Thanks for going to the trouble!

Something is going on ... .

[evets]

It's DEBKA man! (Just damn.)

[BusterBear]

I say we start a thread on what the Dems would say if it’s true.

"Bush should have gotten him years ago in Tora Bora."

"Bush chose this time to nab him, so as to divert attention from the US attorneys firings."

"Bin Laden is a made-up figure, designed to frighten Americans into supporting Bush's corrupt cronies in the defense industry. Bush had to kill him off because he knew the jig was up (ala Congressional investigations into Administration lies)."

"Bin Laden had to be killed because he was about to squeal about his collusion with Bush, the CIA, and Karl Rove"

[BobS]

Allah’s in a bar?

[denydenydeny]

Given that Zawahiri is comfortable enough to release daily videos (during the Red Mosque siege he was responding to events almost the same day), I don’t think he’s in any serious danger.

On the other hand, the siege and subsequent attacks may have convinced secular Pakistan that it’s fighting for its life, and may have to attack accordingly.

[Tinman93]

Early reports confirm they’re somewhere on Earth.

[conservativehusker]

Rush says good humor has to have an element of truth to be truly funny.

You make me ROTFALOL!!!

[Terabitten]

Your take on this, sir?

[nmh]

That’s not the encouraging news I wanted to hear ...

;)

[GWB00]

I say that they catch OBL (if still alive) and the murderous pediatrician (Ayman Zawahiri) just in time for the Patreaus Report in September. This gives the administration a powerful argument that the WOT is working.

It may not be a coincidence that they have doubled the bounty of OBL to $50 million.

[GeorgefromGeorgia]

Debka tends to print whatever rumor is out there. They get it right sometimes. Debka is not an authority to rely on for academic research.

[Philistone]

Thanks.

I’m thinking that it was either a message to the defenders of the Red Mosque or a sign that Zawahiri believes his time is up.

[Bean Counter]

Confused-ius Say: “Even blind squirrel find occasional nut”...

Move along....

[nmh]

“Confused-ius Say: “Even blind squirrel find occasional nut”...”

I like that ... I’ll have to remember that one!

:)