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To: Greg F

(Q)But, but, how could he create light without the sun? He’s God!(/Q)

Sigh. The verse being quoted shows clearly that the events as portrayed in Genesis are in contradiction to what Science would tell us. I did vet them before posting. What is the source of visible light, and the engine that drives all life on Earth? The Sun. How could God make such a mistake? Did he make light and heat by some supernatural means, then say to Himself. “Hmm. I think I just figured out a BETTER way to make light and heat for the Earth - I’ll make a Sun powered by thermonuclear fusion!” Then, he magically wished away His Magical light and wished the Sun into existence. (What held the planets in place before the Sun was there? Or did they exist yet?) If God did decide to create a new kind of light (the Sun), then this proves He is fallible and not omnipotent, to wit; why didn’t He create the Sun in the first place? Also, if He is all-powerful (i.e., Omnipotent), then why did He have to rest on the seventh day? Science dispels with having to cop out with statements like “He’s God! He can do anything he wants!” Science demands an explanation for physical phenomena and does not resort to highly unrealistic supernatural explanations. Without the Sun the temperature on the Earth would fall to close to absolute zero. That is not nonsense, it is a provable fact. One would assume an omnipotent God would know His laws of physics better than, well, anybody, and create things in the Universe in the correct order. In Genesis, this does not happen. If Genesis is not a “detailed” description of Creation, then are the rest of the Scriptures the “detailed” Word of God? If they are only as accurate as Genesis, do you see the problem here? Why didn’t God, a perfect, omniscient, omnipotent being, create humanity so that we COULD understand his Word, and cause the Bible to be written in a way that we could not possibly misinterpret? Instead of designing us to fail?


100 posted on 07/16/2007 11:28:41 AM PDT by Locke_2007 (Liberals are non-sentient life forms)
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To: Locke_2007
You might enjoy Gerald Schroeder's The Science Of God, a book which answers your questions, written by a Jewish Physicist.
102 posted on 07/16/2007 11:39:39 AM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: Locke_2007

Regardless there is no contradiction, since the Bible states that God created light before he created plants. Query, is thermonuclear fusion the only source of light in the universe? If no, why do you even think it was “supernatural?” Not that I would have any problem with a supernatural light . . . I have no problem with a supernatural God . . .

Once again, I don’t think we have the understanding or the words even today to have God give us a description of creation. Much less one that would have made sense to the ancient Jews and stand the test of all time, and understanding, and inspiration for all readers.

Let there be light! First act of creation. No problem for plants there.


105 posted on 07/16/2007 12:00:59 PM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: Locke_2007

Why didn’t God, a perfect, omniscient, omnipotent being, create humanity so that we COULD understand his Word, and cause the Bible to be written in a way that we could not possibly misinterpret? Instead of designing us to fail?
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I just caught this. You are not designed to fail. You are designed to succeed and God wants you to. God loves you. It’s a personal relationship that you can have with God; your salvation is personal, not corporate. As far as “no possible misinterpretation” goes that wouldn’t leave free will. It would have to be embedded in you as instinct if it left no choice and no free will. Not the way humans were made, praise God.

1 Timothy 3-4 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.


136 posted on 07/16/2007 2:08:32 PM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: Locke_2007
Science demands an explanation for physical phenomena and does not resort to highly unrealistic supernatural explanations.

So when science doesn't understand something, or refuses to investigate it makes stuff up?

The verse being quoted shows clearly that the events as portrayed in Genesis are in contradiction to what Science would tell us.

What a load of unmitigated crap! The more science learns the more it jives with the biblical account. Also you have to remember in biblical terms "light" might not mean physical light as we know it. In Revelation there's a verse which describes an absent of the sun in heaven, but God's light will be suficient for all. Do you understand what this means, I don't.

When a photon changes it characteristic strickly based on it being observed, (it seems) science hasn't the slightest clue about the realm we live in and the biblical account has proven to be alot closer than any of sciences conjectures.

Was the speed of light much faster at Genesis than it is today?

157 posted on 07/16/2007 5:58:08 PM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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