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To: quant5
...America after the NAU...

...soon-coming 7-year biblical apocalypse. And those that know the Lord won’t be around to see it.

I’ll be here.

Although I believe your sincerity, I don't believe the Lord wants you to be "left behind." Otherwise, he wouldn't exhort us multiple times to "be ready." The picture the Lord gave us in his word about the tribulation is that of the time of Noah (Matt 24:37, Luke 17:27) and the time of Sodom's demise (Luke 17:29). God rescued Noah and Lot from total devastation. Jesus is saying Noah's ark and the angels ushering Lot out of Sodom are pictures/types of the rapture. God could not execute judgment on Sodom until Lot was out of there. When Holy Spirit speaks to us in dreams and visions, He never contradicts God's Word, the Bible.

More below extracted form an earlier post if you want to read on...

"For God has not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ" (I Thess 5:9). The tribulation is "the great day of his wrath" (Rev 6:16-17). By the fourth seal, one quarter of the population of the whole earth is dead (Rev 6:8). After the sixth trumpet, half the world is dead. Whoever's left is killed at Armageddon (Rev 16:14, 16:16, 19:21). (The only ones left are the Jews God has hidden in Petra). There is no comfort, nor is it scriptural, in believing that God will make us go through his wrath in the tribulation, whether in part or in whole, though some Christians hold to this. It's OK, because God will do what he will do, but the Holy Spirit was given as the Comforter, "to show you things to come" (John 16:15).

By God's mercy, many are saved during the 1st three and a half years but they're all martyred. However, there's nothing heroic in God's Word about missing his coming because his wrath and judgment are not meant for his people.

175 posted on 07/19/2007 6:59:12 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

Yes, first comes the wrath of the nations but then God’s own’s wrath comes. The description of the events following the war are what you mentioning for trumpet blasts. I have seen no scriptual evidence supporting a rapture before the final great war, the mark of the beast where we are instructed to not take it or be part of God’s wrath (post war). Believe what you will, some of us will be martyred and some slain during this war. As Christ admonished, I fear Him that can kill my spirit, not those can kill the body.

I agree with your scriptual foundation that in the very end, God preserves His own, but did Noah suffer? I am sure, his era was filled with violence as scriptures tell us. How about the Jews whom were led into slavery to the Babylonians or the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans? We are told in Revelations that the time period of martyrs of our day must occur until the blood of the saints crying out for justice is fulfilled. That means to me that we will suffer for part of this. I do not want to be a martry or suffer. Christ didn’t either and asked if their was another way on the night He knew torment and death was approaching.


177 posted on 07/23/2007 5:56:21 PM PDT by quant5
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To: Jim 0216

Now that I stopped and read your post more fully I see we were saying the same thing!


178 posted on 07/23/2007 5:59:45 PM PDT by quant5
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