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Saudis' role in Iraq insurgency outlined
Los Angeles Times ^ | July 15, 2007 | By Ned Parker, Times Staff Writer

Posted on 07/15/2007 10:39:20 AM PDT by CHEE

BAGHDAD — Although Bush administration officials have frequently lashed out at Syria and Iran, accusing it of helping insurgents and militias here, the largest number of foreign fighters and suicide bombers in Iraq come from a third neighbor, Saudi Arabia, according to a senior U.S. military officer and Iraqi lawmakers.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraqinsurgency; saudis; terror
The friend of my friend is my enemy!
1 posted on 07/15/2007 10:39:21 AM PDT by CHEE
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To: CHEE

If SA had no oil would our gov’t policy towards it be different?


2 posted on 07/15/2007 10:49:10 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: CHEE

Our good friend and ally, Saudi Arabia, supporting terrorism? I’m SHOCKED! SHOCKED, I tell ya.


3 posted on 07/15/2007 10:51:22 AM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: Paladin2
If SA had no oil would our gov’t policy towards it be different?

I’m positive that you mean something like the billions of dollars in foreign aid we do not send to Iceland.

4 posted on 07/15/2007 11:36:33 AM PDT by CHEE (Shoot low, they're crawling.)
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To: lesser_satan
Saudi Arabia's Links to Terrorism

Middle East Forum

5 posted on 07/15/2007 12:00:39 PM PDT by KDD
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To: KDD

Conclusion
With the end of the Cold War, the most persuasive reasons for maintaining the marriage of convenience with Saudi Arabia disappeared. With the September 11 attacks, the returns on this partnership went from zero to negative. The Saudis have become the friends of our enemies and the enemies of our friends. Bin Laden is an extension of Saudi foreign policy. To be fair, the Saudis don’t quite know how to deal with the monster they’ve created – so far they’ve avoided tough choices. As long as the benefits of sponsoring terror are enormous and the costs of sponsoring terror are negligible, they will not take decisive action. The US must therefore make the costs of funding Wahhabi extremism terribly high, while making the benefits slim pickings


6 posted on 07/15/2007 12:02:08 PM PDT by KDD
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To: CHEE

No, I’m thinking more along the lines of: Would we really welcome our oil money recycled in building and staffing Wahabbist mosques unless we really wanted the oil to be produced?


7 posted on 07/15/2007 1:06:12 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: Paladin2
No, I’m thinking more along the lines of: Would we really welcome our oil money recycled in building and staffing Wahabbist mosques unless we really wanted the oil to be produced?


I am so pleased to see you use the word “produced”. I feel our major problem is not importing oil. The problem is that we “Outsource Oil Production”. We can and should be using our own oil. There is no reason to save it is we do not plan to use it in the future. Let’s dig some holes.
8 posted on 07/15/2007 1:25:27 PM PDT by CHEE (Shoot low, they're crawling.)
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To: CHEE
Wahabbism. That's all I need to know about "our friends" the saudis. I still think we should have taken them down first, lock, stock and barrel.
9 posted on 07/15/2007 2:26:23 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: KDD

They’re scum from top to bottom. I’d like to see the whole royal family publicly beheaded.


10 posted on 07/15/2007 3:43:37 PM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: CHEE

Saudi ragheads haven’t paid a dime to the 9/11 victims.

The way I see it, they owe us for 2 skyscrapers and about 20,000 killed and wounded since 2001.

They need to cut the price of oil in half as reparations or we should just take it from them.

Why in Christ’s name we gave it to them in the first place is beyond me.

These subhumans would be digging for oil with picks and shovels if it wasn’t for us.


11 posted on 07/15/2007 3:47:49 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: onedoug

Another attack on US soil and all bets are off.

The Saudis won’t have their buddy Bush around much longer to protect them .

Thompson will bomb them back into the stone age


12 posted on 07/15/2007 3:49:14 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Eurotwit

Saudis in Iraq ping


13 posted on 07/15/2007 3:56:21 PM PDT by Sender (Be subtle! Be subtle! And use your squirrels for every kind of business.)
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To: KDD
Conclusion

With the end of the Cold War, the most persuasive reasons for maintaining the marriage of convenience with Saudi Arabia disappeared. ...

I don't agree with your analysis and I'm no Saudi fan. Here is my take:

Long ago, the Saudi Royal Family sold out to the Wahhabis making another marriage of convenience that established Wahhabism as the dominant branch of Islam in Saudi Arabia. This was a don't make waves marriage. The Royal Family let the mullahs have their way with the population and the mullahs promised to let the Royal Family continue to soak up the oil money and "rule" the country.

This makes Saudi Arabia a rich source of jihadists with or without the support of the Royal Family. I personally don't think there is much support for bin Laden within the Royals but there is certainly some. Nevertheless, it is certain (at least IMHO) that the dominant leadership of Saudi would not be happy with an American defeat in Iraq. This would lead certainly to an Iranian domination of Iraq and make them even more dangerous than they are now. What we know as Iraq, Syria and Lebanon would effectively become just a part of a region dominating Iran. This would not be good for Saudi Arabia, it would not be good for Israel and it would certainly not be good for the United States of America.

14 posted on 07/15/2007 4:02:04 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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There are contradictions in your logic...Being as the Royal family are all from the school of Whabbism, then they must have known that at some point the Mullahs would have to target and expose them to the “street” as infidels.

The Koran dictates that end result as part of its theology.

I believe that the jihad is approved and financed by the super rich in SA...especially the Royal Family...They promote jihad to show their “street” and Shia Iran their Islamic “purity”.

Nevertheless, it is certain (at least IMHO) that the dominant leadership of Saudi would not be happy with an American defeat in Iraq. This would lead certainly to an Iranian domination of Iraq and make them even more dangerous than they are now. What we know as Iraq, Syria and Lebanon would effectively become just a part of a region dominating Iran. This would not be good for Saudi Arabia, it would not be good for Israel and it would certainly not be good for the United States of America.

Ironic...such a statement would seem to make Saddam seem to have been a bulwark against chaos in that region. That was the C.I.A.-NSA assessment of the political situation there in 1988. Reagan operated under that analysis...The arrival of GHW Bush on scene signaled a dramatic shift in U.S. policy in the region, and toward Saddam. I now believe that the rapid rise of neoconservatism in the Executive began in earnest at that time.

15 posted on 07/16/2007 1:37:10 AM PDT by KDD
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To: KDD
There are contradictions in your logic...Being as the Royal family are all from the school of Whabbism, then they must have known that at some point the Mullahs would have to target and expose them to the “street” as infidels.

The Koran dictates that end result as part of its theology.

Well that is probably all too true.

I'm not saying that the Royal Family made a good deal. They have been on shaky ground for a long time. But that does not infer a real sympathy for the Mullahs. I think they like their jets, their alcohol, their women and their lifestyle way too much to actually believe that the Mullahs are anything but an enemy - unfortunately for them, an enemy that must be held close and pampered. It is the classic rock and a hard place.

So my basic position is this: The Mullahs in Saudi Arabia are the bad guys. The Royals are as close to a friend as we can get and we know what happens when you toss out the friendly ruler and let the Mullahs take over - that was a lesson that Jimmy Carter taught us. At least we don't have the Saudis developing nuclear weapons and aiming missiles at Israel.

In other words, we too are between a rock and a hard place.

16 posted on 07/16/2007 6:45:31 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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