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To: MNJohnnie
Some Justice at last

Not really.

One month suspension is no punishment at all. It might even further endear him to his supporters.

Further, the case against him is extremely weak. He says he was the unknowing recipient of dirty money. Even if he's lying how guilty is he? Using the same standards how many U.S. politicians who've accepted money from American companies who took the same dirty money are also guilty? Has anyone even bothered to try to trace the connections? We know that several American oil companies took dirty money from Saddam. They must have made political contributions - all major companies do. So who were the recipients?

True, Galloway took money - indirectly - from foreign source but that seems to be legal in England and anyway how important is that? These days, in the global economy, money has no nationality.

22 posted on 07/15/2007 8:49:07 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
One month suspension is no punishment at all. It might even further endear him to his supporte

Could you please try thinking instead of mindlessly spewing dogma ONE time? You response typically knee jerk and completely irrational.

Prior to this he had taken money from thugs and faced NO penalty. NOW he has been found guilty and is being, however modestly, punished. That is a step in the correct direction no matter how desperately the hysteric Left wants to deny reality.

Also, after his flaming defense, to be prove a liar makes all his future actions suspect to all thinking individuals. If he was so strenuous in lying to us all along about this, what else is he lying about?

Now anything Galloway champions is going to be tainted by association. That it may increases his status amount his fringe loser set is irrelevant.

The fringes were going to blindly worship him no matter what. No thinking person cares in the least what those bigoted clowns feel since they know full well they are as immune to reason as any other gang of political, religious or racial fanatics.

27 posted on 07/15/2007 1:03:01 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Ignorance can be cured by education, stupidity is a terminal condition)
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To: liberallarry
Even if he's lying how guilty is he? Using the same standards how many U.S. politicians who've accepted money from American companies who took the same dirty money are also guilty? Has anyone even bothered to try to trace the connections?

Yes. Try entering the keywords "oil4food" , "oilforfood," "Delta oil," "delta oil services," "occidentalpetroleum," "occidental," "scott ritter," "shakir al khafaji," "alkhafaji," "samir vincent," "vincent," "elgindi," "tonypacific," "anthonyelgindy," "mohammedalamoudi," "coastal corp," "coastal," "bay oil," "wyatt," and "OscarWyatt."

For example : NEWSWEEK: Democrat Donor received $22 million in "Oil for Food" Scandal

Also see

1990 : (RICHARD BRANSON & SIR EDWARD HEATH FLY TO IRAQ TO RETRIEVE HOSTAGES THAT IRAQ TOOK : BRANSON MEETS WITH SADDAM HUSSEIN - SEE VIRGIN AIRLINES; OTHER VISITORS INCLUDE RAMSEY CLARK, JOHN CONNALLY & OSCAR WYATT OF COASTAL CORP) "Richard [Branson] met Saddam briefly in 1990 when he flew out to Baghdad with Sir Edward Heath to bring home 43 injured and sick hostages before the first conflict. "He was convinced Bush [* My note: Pop or son, which one?] would go to war in Iraq but he was always sceptical about the weapons of mass destruction. He was saddened when the plan was overtaken by events" ------- "BRANSON: MY PLOT TO STOP IRAQ WAR (Nelson Mandela Rescue Mission)," by Richard Smith, Daily Mirror (U.K.), 12 18 2004
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He [former ambassador Joe Wilson?] mentions [ Sir Edward ] Heath's visit [accompanied by Virgin Airlines' Richard Branson] on p. 145 of his book, though he gives the impression he and the embassy disapproved of Heath's action. Incidentally in the same passage he lists American visitors, including Ramsey Clark and John Connally; he doesn't mention it, but Connally went there with Oscar Wyatt of Coastal Corp. (there's a bit on this in Chapter 2 of the final Volcker Report).--------------- Posted by Fedora to piasa , On News/Activism 11/04/2005 11:42:42 PM PST · 204 of 204 [See thread "Is this the "French Connection" we were looking for?"]

And :

Enron chose the CCE offer last week [early Sept 2004] in a closed-door auction, rejecting a slightly smaller offer from NuCoastal LLC, a company run by Texas billionaire and Coastal Corp. founder Oscar Wyatt Jr. The deal is expected to close in December.[2004]--------- "Sale of Enron assets OK'd : Bankruptcy judge approves plan for three pipelines ," By Kristen Hays, Associated Press, September 11, 2004, http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/business/article/0,1299,DRMN_4_3174223,00.html

And:

JANUARY 30, 1996 : (FORBES ARTICLE ON COASTAL CORP.'S OSCAR WYATT, "SADDAM'S PAL OSCAR [WYATT]" IS PUBLISHED) Toni Mack, "Saddam’s pal Oscar." Forbes, available online at http://www.forbes.com:80/forbes/123096/5815072a.htm (January 30, 1996). This article in Forbes magazine reflects on the seedy side of Oscar Wyatt and depicts him as an abrasive street fighter and a liability to Coastal Corp. It traces Oscar Wyatt’s dealings with Libya and Iraq and the most inopportune times. It goes further to suggest that Coastal Corp. should split up into natural gas/electric power operations and refinery operations to increase the companies net worth and perhaps shake Wyatt out of the helm making it easier for Coastal to find partners willing to work with them.

He's been around a while :

1960 : (OSCAR WYATT WORKS FOR THE KENNEDY/JOHNSON CAMPAIGN -- See ELECTION IRREGULARITIES) To: dandelion Good stuff you're finding there. I found a little confirming my suspicion of an LBJ link. Wyatt worked for the JFK-LBJ campaign in 1960. According to an interview with Wyatt recorded in Seymour Hersh's book The Dark Side of Camelot, p. 152, on election night he was telephoned by LBJ crony Clifton Carter who told him, "You've got to get one hundred thousand dollars to Mississippi tonight" in order to make sure JFK and LBJ won Mississippi in case they lost Illinois. However the Daley machine in Illinois carried the vote there before the payments were issued, so Wyatt ended up not having to pay the money, he says. 205 posted on 10/10/2004 2:57:35 PM PDT by Fedora

In a Story today titled : Report: U. S. firmsbought oil from Iraq. Sub titled: Houstonian among those who profited under the U.N. program . We find the name OSCAR WYATT. Others named were Samir Vincent and Shakir AlKhafaji. Plus AlKhafaji is a dononr to the Arab American PAC that has announced support for skerry. 256 posted on 10/11/2004 4:06:44 AM PDT by marty60

Also

2003 : (DELTA SERVICES IS EXPOSED AS A RECIPIENT OF IRAQI OIL VOUCHERS THROUGH THE HEAD OF THE PLF ABU ABBAS ---- See OIL FOR FOOD SCANDALS, MOHAMMED ALAMOUDI, ROCK CREEK CORP, JOE WILSON) [Joe] Wilson ran his company out of the offices of an investment company called Rock Creek Corporation. Rock Creek was controlled by Mohammed Alamoudi, whom Wilson had met in 1997 at a reception organized for the World Bank by Westar Group. Alamoudi was a member of the Saudi-Ethiopian Alamoudi dynasty, which was heavily invested in the segments of the African economy Wilson was seeking to penetrate. The Alamoudi-affiliated company Delta Services--a Swiss subsidiary of the Saudi company Delta Oil--handled Iraqi oil export contracts in 2000 and 2001 and was revealed in 2003 as a recipient of Iraqi Oil-for-Food vouchers channeled through Abu Abbas, a Palestinian terrorist with Iraqi connections. .... 13 posted on 10/25/2004 1:18:53 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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Some clarification of [Joe] Wilson’s “murky” affiliation with Rock Creek Corporation has been offered at greater length elsewhere, but it will suit present purposes to highlight how Rock Creek’s interests coincided with Wilson’s African investment interests. Rock Creek was controlled by Mohammed Alamoudi, whom Wilson had met in 1997 through a reception organized for the World Bank by Westar Group, a Westar Energy affiliate which managed Alamoudi’s interests in Washington and like Wilson was involved with the Corporate Council on Africa. Alamoudi was a member of the Saudi-Ethiopian Alamoudi dynasty, which was heavily invested in the segments of the African economy Wilson was seeking to penetrate. The Alamoudi oil empire, centered around the Saudi-based company Delta Oil, included African ventures such as Arab-African Petroleum Company (ARAPCO), created in 2002 to buy oil concessions in Africa and develop them with foreign partners.
Alamoudi investments in African telecommunications included a Pan-African telecommunications project launched in 2001 by Pan African Communications Network (PACONET) with financing from a fund chaired by former South African President Nelson Mandela and cofinanced by the International Finance Corporation (IFG), the American International Group (AIG, a group including the Houston-based company El Paso Energy Corporation), and the African Development Bank (ADB). -------From Fedora (clipped from the draft of my article)| 11/05/2005 11:44:05 PM PST

So yes, there are people digging.

31 posted on 07/15/2007 11:56:28 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: liberallarry

* Paul Volker : FoxNews tonight reported that no less a personage than Paul Volker, former Federal Reserve chief, who heads the entire investigation of the U.N. for the U.N., has major league ties to TotalFinaELF, the French oil company which handled the illegal oil transfers, and Bank Paribas, the French bank which laundered billions of Saddam dollars. Paging Senator Coleman!3 posted on 02/01/2005 8:18:31 PM PST by montag813


32 posted on 07/15/2007 11:58:07 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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The keyword "powercorp" may interest folks:

* Paul Volker : FoxNews tonight reported that no less a personage than Paul Volker, former Federal Reserve chief, who heads the entire investigation of the U.N. for the U.N., has major league ties to TotalFinaELF, the French oil company which handled the illegal oil transfers, and Bank Paribas, the French bank which laundered billions of Saddam dollars. Paging Senator Coleman!3 posted on 02/01/2005 8:18:31 PM PST by montag813

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Some other folks have been digging:

 .... Bear in mind that the focus of this story started with TotalFinaElf who had options to develop the massive Majnoon and Bin Umar oilfields in southern Iraq.  I followed the money back to Canada to Power Corporation who has deep connections at highest levels of the UN and then on to China through Mr. Li Ka-Shing, the worlds 19th richest man.  France is still a major player in its attempts to harm the US and continues to position itself as a world leader in a new era, one without the USA as a superpower. .....

Power Corporation holds the controlling stock of TOTAL otherwise known as TotalFinaElf.  I’m providing a Timeline of the more significant events of the company to provide some background.  Power Corp’s founding father, Paul Desmarais, is a major shareholder and director of TotalFinaElf, the biggest oil corporation in France, which has held tens of billions of dollars in contracts with the deposed regime of Saddam Hussein. Both Prime Minister Paul Martin and his mentor Maurice Strong, senior advisor to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, each have worked for Power Corp. Martin’s immediate predecessor is former Prime Minister Jean Chretien, whose daughter, France is married to Andre Desmarais, Paul Desmarais Sr., son. .......

.....Power Corp., through its ties to the New York branch of the Banque Nationale de Paris-Paribas, or BNP Paribas is also linked to the UN oil-for-food scandal. BNP Paribas was the sole bank for administering the $64 billion oil-for-food program and did not have adequate checks on whether money was being funneled to terrorists, a House International Relations Committee probe found in November 2004. Committee investigators have uncovered evidence that BNP Paribas made payments without proof that goods were delivered and sanctioned payments to third parties not identified as authorized recipients......

TotalFinaElf is now working with the Iranians.  They are operating under contracts to help develop the South Pars gas field.  They are the Iranian portions of what is probably the largest gas field in the world. The other part of the field, in Qatari waters, is known as North Field. With the South Pars project, TotalFinaElf has become the foremost oil company in partnership with Iran and has bolstered its position in the Middle East, where the Group has been active for some 75 years. -------Expanding the French Connection Self ^ | Friday, November 04, 2005 | Paperjam

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33 posted on 07/16/2007 12:07:58 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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