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Vietnam Detains Democracy Activist After Internet Chat And Aid Distribution
BosNewsLife ^ | Surday, 14 July 2007 | BosNewsLife

Posted on 07/14/2007 5:54:56 PM PDT by Toidylop

HANOI, VIETNAM (BosNewsLife)-- A young democracy activist has been detained and tortured in Ho Chi Minh City after she participated in an Internet forum dealing with religious and political rights and provided aid to homeless protestors, dissidents told BosNewsLife Saturday, July 14.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communismkills; communist; democracy; fondalegacy; kerrylegacy; religiousintolerance; saigon; vietnam
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1 posted on 07/14/2007 5:54:58 PM PDT by Toidylop
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To: Toidylop

But he has free health care.


2 posted on 07/14/2007 5:57:48 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Toidylop

Correction: She has free health care.


3 posted on 07/14/2007 5:58:15 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Toidylop

This is what over 50,000 GOOD AMERICANS DIED FOR.


4 posted on 07/14/2007 6:03:59 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Toidylop
Paltalk chat friends mentioned in story. Not a big membership but did some profile seaches which are interesting. Not a lot of "chat" but small groups are formed here. Google advertises topics of Islamic interest down the right bar side.
5 posted on 07/14/2007 6:11:10 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay (John Edwards -- " War on Terror : A Bumper Sticker")
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To: Toidylop
Somebody on FreeRepublic posted to me on another thread that VietNam is enslaved by the Communists and that it is a free market and on its way to democracy.

Making they just left off the sarcasm tag.

If I could remember who it was I’d ping him or her to this thread.

6 posted on 07/14/2007 6:22:40 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Toidylop

It’s stuff like this event that makes it dangerous for America to continue to tolerate the Democrat party.


7 posted on 07/14/2007 6:32:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: BenLurkin
"Making they just left off the sarcasm tag."
Yeah... VC will lead Vietnam to democracy!!! What a crock that is...
8 posted on 07/14/2007 6:36:33 PM PDT by Toidylop
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To: Toidylop

Bump!


9 posted on 07/14/2007 7:51:04 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
There's a possibility it was me.

I think moves to democracy there are a "Two steps forward, one step back" sort of situation.

In no way apologizing for government action, there seems more to this story somehow.

The source said her trial begins July 27? It's certainly worthy of follow up, and I would urge the American Embassy in Hanoi and consulate in Saigon to make an agressive inquiry.

Vietnam could be made to heel if the pressure is put on.

10 posted on 07/14/2007 8:33:42 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: All; EagleUSA; Toidylop; BenLurkin

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Despite over 58,000 Americans’ sacrificing their lives on behalf of the Freedom of Others in a then Free South Vietnam...

Sen. TED KENNEDY pushed a post-WATERGATE Democrat Congress into cutting off all our funding for the South Vietnamese to fight for their own Freedom with against Communist terrorists invading from the North.

Giving us all to sadly see since:

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Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education (SLAVE LABOR) Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts

http://www.JourneyFromTheFall.com

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NEVER AGAIN.

Not now, Not ever.

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11 posted on 07/14/2007 9:13:14 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Thank you Ronnie, I always appreciate your tenacious reposting of FACTS concerning Communist VN that cost over 58,000 precious US lives, whose efforts were also defunded by some of the SAME COWARDS and TRAITORS. I will never let these people forget.

Our son and his buddies continue the fight (2nd deployment) in Iraq and of course Afghanistan, in the dirt and dust, the mud and blood of that miserable chunk of land. But we honor them and always will, the cowards will be known for what they are just as they are known for what they did to us in the 60s and 70s. At least some of us remember...


12 posted on 07/14/2007 9:22:06 PM PDT by brushcop (Men of B-Co 2/69 3ID Outpost Lion's Den/Iraq: Kill the enemy--in large numbers.)
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To: All; brushcop

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MEL’s -PASSION- sparked by -WE WERE SOLDIERS-

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1085111/posts

http://www.Freerepublic.com/~aloharonnie/

http://www.Freerepublic.com/~anita1/

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13 posted on 07/14/2007 9:44:24 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: BenLurkin; ALOHA RONNIE; onedoug
A note from a buddy. We served in Danang and he's spent a lot of time in Viet Nam over the years.

Capitalism in Saigon is going very strong; shops all over the damn place. Thriving black market, of course.

There are plenty of pretty nice resort places. There’s a real pricy one in DaLat as well as some inexpensive ones. Driving East from Saigon (I wouldn’t recommend driving), there is an area called Vung Tau which is a weekend haven for the cowboys from Saigon - don’t go there on a weekend cause it’s a madcap, teenage Vietnamese outing. Anyone wanting to go, I’d recommend taking the hydrofoil which one can catch from right downtown in Saigon (~one hour, 15 minutes and they sell beer on board).

Much better is Nha Trang which is just miles to the South of Cam Rang. Nha Trang is very laid back although it also gets its share of Saigon cowboys on the weekends, not as bad as Vung Tau since it’s further away. Great beach.

There’s a crummy beach area 20 minutes East of Hai Phong (Do Son), hardly worth the trip. There is a casino out there but, obviously no VN people, since only foreigners are allowed to partake.

I never got to the DaNang beach area or Hoi An but that’s where the big growth has been; expensive but supposedly nice.

Hue has very little in the way of a beach. The perfume river is odiferous because it’s nothing more than an open sewer. Up the river though are all the mausoleums of the former emperors. I enjoyed touring the Forbidden City.

Viet Nam is a good place to visit if you have an attachment, like you and I do Jack. For someone who has no emotional attachment, I’d suggest Thailand.


Just my opinion.


The Lao Dong Party in Hanoi just cannot control everything that goes on there. VN isn't free yet, the government is still repressive when it comes to politics and religion but business is good.
14 posted on 07/14/2007 10:12:40 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: BIGLOOK
I never got to the DaNang beach area or Hoi An but that’s where the big growth has been; expensive but supposedly nice.

I sure did, as my AO was just south of there: 1/1 CAV, Americal '68-69.

I went back with my daughter in 2000 and we had one of the greatest times I've ever had in my life. Some sad to be be sure, closing open issues, as like a circle, but truly bright and optimistic overall.

The South and the North are still two different societies, though capitalism has a way of bringing people out of their shell.

Maybe Vietnam's future is colored for me by that newfound hope. But I definitely felt better leaving this than I did the first time. And I'd like to go back yet again.

15 posted on 07/15/2007 8:08:15 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug
"Maybe Vietnam's future is colored for me by that newfound hope. But I definitely felt better leaving this than I did the first time. And I'd like to go back yet again"
I understand... However, I believe you get mixed up the "people" vs the "government". I myself went back and visited Vietnam. I can tell you that the Vietnamese people that I met along the way really made my trip special. They appreciate what American stands for like you've never seen in your life. During my trip, I couldn't find one person that likes how the commie run the country, from the the poor to the well-to-do That's said, I wish we forcefully put more pressure to these commies in Hanoi and let them know barbarians have no place in a civilized society.
16 posted on 07/15/2007 9:03:49 AM PDT by Toidylop
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To: onedoug
We did get to the beach outside DaNang while we were there years ago. China Beach was an in-country R&R center and every few months we'd get a Saturday afternoon pass to have a det picnic there.

I'm not surprised that the area is being developed for resorts.......the beach matched Maui's beaches. Here's a site to check out.
17 posted on 07/15/2007 10:51:52 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: All; brushcop

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..”at least some of us remember”..

And now “some of us” ..make that a lot of us.. have internet and conservative talk radio/TV tools of CLARITY that can beat back the media propoganda of the Anti-Freedom Left in this country in this new time of war, with our own Freedom directly at stake here at home.

An Anti-Freedom Left that doomed a once Free South Vietnamese people into decades of total misery after a U.S. cut off of Vietnam War funding.

NEVER AGAIN.

Not now, Not ever.

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18 posted on 07/15/2007 11:32:24 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: EagleUSA
This is what over 50,000 GOOD AMERICANS DIED FOR.

No, they died to prevent this from happening, but our politicians stabbed them in the back.

19 posted on 07/15/2007 11:34:52 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: dfwgator; All

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It’s precisely the same politicians who stabbed a once Free people of South Vietnam in the back so long ago...

...are pushing hard to do the same thing again to the now Free people of Iraq:

BARBARA BOXER
HILLARY RODHAM
WILLIAM CLINTON
TED KENNEDY
JOHN KERRY
and all...

Producing Part II of: http://www.JourneyFromTheFall.com

Shouldn’t we all be asking them WHY they have always been so dead set against Freedom for others..?

Before we all end up losing ours..?

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20 posted on 07/15/2007 12:25:08 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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