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Hidden inflation
Scripps Howard News Service ^ | 7/12/2007 | BONNIE ERBE

Posted on 07/14/2007 11:02:40 AM PDT by bruinbirdman

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To: richalessi
Of course gold changes in value.

Excellent!

It is affected by supply and demand fundamentals.

Kind of like interest rates.

81 posted on 07/19/2007 11:11:19 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists, FairTaxers and goldbugs so bad at math?)
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Toddler, it’s been great learning from you, but it’s time to run. I recommend you download and read that desoto book, it’s 900 pages though, so it will probably take you about 5 years to finish it. That will be good timing though, as we can then catch up on what the inflation rate is 5 years from now. Maybe cash will still buy what it can buy today!


82 posted on 07/19/2007 11:13:01 AM PDT by richalessi
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To: richalessi
Great. Be sure to ping me when you find out who sets all our interest rates.

That will be good timing though, as we can then catch up on what the inflation rate is 5 years from now.

Can't wait for you to show everyone that all our prices doubled. LOL!

83 posted on 07/19/2007 11:17:50 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists, FairTaxers and goldbugs so bad at math?)
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To: richalessi
All countries have central banks, and interest rates the world over are set through central planning.

Hmmmm.....You'd think centrally set rates would be a lot smoother. You know, rates shall be 5% would show zero movement up and down, until the next rate setting announcement.

84 posted on 07/19/2007 11:21:57 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists, FairTaxers and goldbugs so bad at math?)
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To: bruinbirdman
I have no sympathy for someone who complains about inflation, real or not...

I, too have NO SYMPATHY for anyone who complains about inflation. The "little people" should eat cake and keep their foolish little mouths shut.

I only pray that JESUS will forgive them for their foolish spending habits....

85 posted on 07/19/2007 12:36:02 PM PDT by martin gibson ("I care not what course others may take, but as for myself, give me Ralph Stanley or give me death")
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Congress is COMPLETELY to blame for the drop in buying power of a legal consumer dollar.

The premium paid on everything from a gallon of milk to a gallon of gas is essentially a ‘global warming tax’ or alternatively a subsidy on ‘cheap imported labor’.


86 posted on 07/19/2007 12:55:03 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: richalessi
"I’d advise you to watch the purchasing power of your CASH and see if it erodes at a rate higher than 2-3% over the coming years. Just food and energy prices alone will account for > 10% inflation annually."

And I thought the original proposition was "It is not that difficult to stay ahead of inflation." No mention of rate, true or hidden.

Cash! Why so much talk of cash. Keep some for emergencies and liquidity, ready to invest in equities.

The guy who is worried about the price of food should get a second job.

yitbos

87 posted on 07/19/2007 1:40:56 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: martin gibson
"The "little people" should eat cake and keep their foolish little mouths shut."

The secret is to eat bread and mac and cheese and invest the difference. Invest in learning how to save and invest. Libraries don't ask to see your 1040.

Try going without for 30 or 40 years and see what you have afterwards.

yitbos

88 posted on 07/19/2007 1:59:12 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman

“Cash! Why so much talk of cash. Keep some for emergencies and liquidity, ready to invest in equities.”

Generally speaking, we are paid in cash. So if the value of the cash is decreasing, you will be purchasing less until your income catches up.


89 posted on 07/19/2007 2:10:26 PM PDT by richalessi
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To: richalessi
And inflation is what from the day one is paid til the next day when he invests in inflation beating instruments? Or part of that paycheck is automatically invested?

I said, "There are ways to beat inflation." Do you disagree with that simple statement?

yitbos

90 posted on 07/19/2007 2:20:20 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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Yes, of course there are ways to beat inflation. Mainly consists of borrowing depreciating money and then paying off the loan in the future. Funds must be used for speculation or investment during the period the loan is outstanding.

The average American is not in a position to take advantage of this - they pulled it off for short periods during the tech bubble and the housing bubble. The latter will burst as the former did. You need to be quick.


91 posted on 07/19/2007 3:31:24 PM PDT by richalessi
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To: richalessi
"Yes, of course there are ways to beat inflation.

Thankyou, I said that in #17.

Mainly consists of borrowing depreciating money "

Not true. I have said nothing concerning "speculation" or ""depreciating money", margin buys, shorts, futures puts or calls, currency carry trades, preferreds Not even interest rates. Not even borrowing at all.

Unless you count my paltry borrowing on a credit card that I always pay off at the end of every month.

If others lack fiscal discipline, frugality, hard work, I cannot be responsible nor can the government.

See #88.

yitbos

92 posted on 07/19/2007 4:19:00 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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The housing costs in the CPI are based on rent, not home prices.

In the Seattle area, home prices have gone through the roof the last seven years, yet rent has actually stayed flat or even gone down.

So, a massive increase in the most expensive monthly payment of most homeowners is not even factored into the inflation rate. That makes the figures useless.


93 posted on 07/19/2007 4:37:45 PM PDT by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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The housing costs in the CPI are based on rent, not home prices.

Actually rent and owners equivalent rent.

In the Seattle area, home prices have gone through the roof the last seven years, yet rent has actually stayed flat or even gone down.

So, a massive increase in the most expensive monthly payment of most homeowners is not even factored into the inflation rate.

Everybody in the Seattle area bought a new house in the last seven years?

94 posted on 07/19/2007 4:49:43 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists, FairTaxers and goldbugs so bad at math?)
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So, a massive increase in the most expensive monthly payment of most homeowners is not even factored into the inflation rate. That makes the figures useless.

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95 posted on 07/19/2007 4:57:12 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists, FairTaxers and goldbugs so bad at math?)
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