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To: ndt; metmom; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; editor-surveyor; AndyTheBear; Tailgunner Joe; pacelvi; ...

More on the motivations and conclusions of the Darwinist faithful:

“Naturalistic evolution has clear consequences that Charles Darwin understood perfectly. 1) No gods worth having exist; 2) no life after death exists; 3) no ultimate foundation for ethics exists; 4) no ultimate meaning in life exists; and 5) human free will is nonexistent.”

Provine, William B. [Professor of Biological Sciences, Cornell University], “, “Evolution: Free will and punishment and meaning in life”, Abstract of Will Provine’s 1998 Darwin Day Keynote Address.

“It is no more heretical to say the Universe displays purpose, as Hoyle has done, than to say that it is pointless, as Steven Weinberg has done. Both statements are metaphysical and outside science. Yet it seems that scientists are permitted by their own colleagues to say metaphysical things about lack of purpose and not the reverse. This suggests to me that science, in allowing this metaphysical notion, sees itself as religion and presumably as an atheistic religion (if you can have such a thing).”

Shallis, Michael [Astrophysicist, Oxford University], “In the eye of a storm”, New Scientist, January 19, 1984, pp.42-43.

“I had motive for not wanting the world to have a meaning; consequently assumed that it had none, and was able without any difficulty to find satisfying reasons for this assumption. The philosopher who finds no meaning in the world is not concerned exclusively with a problem in pure metaphysics, he is also concerned to prove that there is no valid reason why he personally should not do as he wants to do, or why his friends should not seize political power and govern in the way that they find most advantageous to themselves. … For myself, the philosophy of meaninglessness was essentially an instrument of liberation, sexual and political.”

Aldous Huxley: Ends and Means, pp. 270 ff.


49 posted on 07/14/2007 11:57:46 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
"More on the motivations and conclusions of the Darwinist faithful:"

You seem to be trying to make an Appeal to consequences. Normally that would be frowned on as a valid argument but it seems to be the height of what passes for debate around here. So a quick question.

Assume for a second that the universe is "pointless" and there is no "meaning of life". Would you rather accept the truth or live in a delusion?
51 posted on 07/14/2007 12:04:30 PM PDT by ndt
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For myself, the philosophy of meaninglessness was essentially an instrument of liberation, sexual and political.” -- A. Huxley

And that's the "bottom line." Sounds like devolution to me. Scrap culture, scrap history, hold one's ancestors in contempt, erase the human past, scrap all rules: and then let me show you the beast I truly am....

Actually, that association seems pretty insulting to "beasts." And so I apologize to the animals....

Thank you ever so much, GGG, for the excellent excerpts, and for writing!

79 posted on 07/14/2007 12:56:52 PM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the additional information!


232 posted on 07/14/2007 9:03:52 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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