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"You know full well there is no evidence showing a species becoming anyhthing other than it’s own KIND"

OK, so are you saying a KIND is the same things as a species? If so then I'm not sure what all the fuss was about.

"the sparrow is always a sparrow- no matter how you alter it, it will always be a sparrow"

There are quite a few examples of new species in historical times. Your claim that a species will never become a new species is just wrong.

"I’ll let htis little jab slide for now."

It's not a jab. You claim that "Biology" is your evidence against the ToE when in fact, the ToE is broadly accepted. So just who's "Biology" are you talking about?

"Mr. Biology Cop stands on the curb across the street and tells species to please hang back and not cross because they don’t have the necessary isntructions inplace to evolve while crossing over to another species KIND"

Are literally introducing an agent of some kind that kicks wandering organisms back into their KIND corral? That may be the weirdest thing I think I have ever heard.

"species, as we are fully aware, can only be altered just so far because there are protections inplace on several levels, some at the molecular level, some higher, that prevent perversion beyond certain “Instruction parameters or limits”"

Umm. No, we don't know that. Care to give a single concrete example of this novel system?

"the caps, or instruction parameters or limits, work a bit differently, they prevent the species from utilizing laterally transfered instruction from other different species"

So why do they allow us to introduce genes from, for example a bacteria into corn? It seems we were able to get past the biology traffic cop and the caps with very little trouble.

And for that matter, what is it? Is it corn KIND or bacteria KIND?

[[OK, so are you saying a KIND is the same things as a species? If so then I’m not sure what all the fuss was about.]]

Nope not at all- That is far too general- as the link I provided will point out.

[[There are quite a few examples of new species in historical times. Your claim that a species will never become a new species is just wrong.]]

See my above reply. Of course there are new species- Microevolution is a wonderful design- macroevolution is a far different matter, and KINDS can’t become NEW KINDS

[[Are literally introducing an agent of some kind that kicks wandering organisms back into their KIND corral? That may be the weirdest thing I think I have ever heard.]]

Lol- the cop is figurative- not literal- the cop represents biological limitations- not some independant ‘agent’. I’m not sure if you’re being funny or sincerely misunderstand what I’m saying.

I said: **species, as we are fully aware, can only be altered just so far because there are protections inplace on several levels,**

You asked: [[Umm. No, we don’t know that. Care to give a single concrete example of this novel system?]]

Just one? Here’s a couple- directed breeding experiments, radiation on fruitflies which mimicked millions of years of mutations (short generational life of fruitflies coupled with massive mutation causing radiation)

[[So why do they allow us to introduce genes from, for example a bacteria into corn? It seems we were able to get past the biology traffic cop and the caps with very little trouble.]]

The caps are still inplace, symbiotic systems are factored into species tolorance caps (caps isn’t hte ideal term- I had the right one last night- but now can’t recall it- but ‘caps’ will do for now- ANd don’t play goober and ask “Redsox baseball caps?”) Some symbiotic organisms are infact vital to survival- but mind you, symbiotic relationships do nothing of moving one species KIND to another NEW KIND.

[[And for that matter, what is it? Is it corn KIND or bacteria KIND?]]

Symbiotic relationship of two KINDS