[Coyoteman]

The thing missing from some of the ToE arguments regarding the second law, is that it can't explain how life can develop without directed energy (energy guided by information) in a closed universe. Without significant "hand waving".

The only quasi logical explanation is had when one assumes the parallel and/or infinite universe hypothesis. Then a case for evolution sans an intelligent prime mover gains a fig leaf of plausibility.

You need to talk to the abiogenesis folks about this one. They are still working out the details.

The theory of evolution begins where they leave off.

[Donald Rumsfeld Fan]

You need to talk to the abiogenesis folks about this one. They are still working out the details.

The theory of evolution begins where they leave off.

The ID people are making a lot of headway with the "information must come first argument". I try to stay informed and have yet to hear a good argument against that assertion. A lot of hand waving and "just so stories", but nothing you can hang your hat on.

To argue that "specified complex design" precedes "blueprints" defies logic.