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To: CottShop

I realize you're trying to cover a complicated subject in a short post, but you lost me here. Morals are the realm of right and wrong. Truth is just true. There are no morals in that. I don't know if there are absolute truths, but there are certainly irrefutable truths (electrons have a negative charge — live with it). Is it good or evil that electrons have a negative charge? I guess you could debate that (if you have nothing better to do), but it doesn't change the truth.

118 posted on 07/14/2007 1:57:54 PM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Term Limits: Stop us before we vote again!)
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To: Mr. Know It All

Wow- this thread took off in a hurry-

Yeah, it’s kind of a convoluted circular subject.

If it is true that morals are objective, then they by extension are truth itself. If there were no evil or good, then truth wouldn’t need morals to exist and truth would be truth without morals. now, since truth is an objective universal absolute, as I said, that indicates that there must be a truth determiner, who by His nature, is the good. Since we know evil exists, we also know the opposite exists, and that the opposite isn’t determined by an arbitrary subjective determiner, but rather by an absolute who’s determination of Good and evil is also absolute- this is a universal truth that is made aware in each of us (Yes, we can subjectively itnerprete these absolutes as we like, but the objective absolute is non the less still absolute)

If this absolute universal morality exists, then walla, it is truth

[[Is it good or evil that electrons have a negative charge?]]

you aRE attempting to comparing a natural truth with a moral truth, and the two are not the same- it’s not a valid argument


238 posted on 07/14/2007 9:13:58 PM PDT by CottShop
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