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To: RKV
Basically [Murray's] saying we now rely on three measures, and you can get to the same result by using only [two].

I have admired Murray's work in the past but, if you don't mind, I will take my queue from the largely successful strategy that the NRA has used in defending our Second Amendment rights: If I see a hair on the camel's nose brushing the bottom edge of the tent, I will attack it with fire, poison, machete and every other weapon in my arsenal.

I stand for no-bull$hit ~~testing~~ to hold both the educational establishment and students to measurable standards. The SAT may be superfluous, but keep your hands off any aspect of measuring results and upholding standards. In fact, I suggest that we introduce an additional test, of the same general sort, to build a bit more redundancy in the firewall against the complete collapse of standards.

I believe that there is no shortage of wasteful practices that might profitably be cut from the educational process. Why don't we just right now put out-of-bounds the "reform" of testing. Go reform something else.

49 posted on 07/14/2007 7:19:44 AM PDT by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: SergeiRachmaninov
go reform something else

Universities, particularly the social sciences and the humanities, would be a great place to start.

I propose reforming them by abolishing brick and mortar classes in these subjects and laying off the thousands of worthless leftist professors who inhabit these departments.

Let the market figure out the worthy profs, and let them teach those who want to learn (and pay for the right to participate) on the Internet.

The day is coming when students around the world will be liberated from their leftist bull-hockey and the stupidity of credentialitus.
166 posted on 07/15/2007 11:57:28 AM PDT by cgbg (Hillary's mob has plans for our liberties--hanging fruit.)
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