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To: nmh

I have a problem with SAT’s and ACT’s. My kids did horrible on both of them although they were honor students in high school. The scores from testing put one—who graduated high in her class taking honors classes—under probation to get into college. She was an honor student in college as were the other two. Oh and by the way, her IQ shows up at 104-6 on all IQ testing throughout school. ACT a 17. She is in her mid thirties and has managed for large companies and been highly successful. My son is an engineer who scored a whopping 18 on the ACT, although his IQ always tested in the upper 130’s.

My kids are intelligent, but not test takers. I have no clue why that is, whether they freeze up or what, but if they had to depend on Achievement test scores to get into college, they would never have made it.

Our third one just graduated college at 20 (another ACT 18 scorer) and is going the same route of success as the other two. Beats the tar out of me.


37 posted on 07/14/2007 7:08:06 AM PDT by Pure Country
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To: Pure Country

Some kids do “freeze” under the pressure - no doubt but still it is not a reason to “abolish” an objective test. It appears your children are motivated and intelligent and it SHOWS regardless of tests. Your kids put allot into their studies and it shows - although not on the test and still they are accomplished!

I’ve heard about the “probabtion” system where they don’t score well but other factors let them attend - so there’s a good method to let them enjoy the fruits of their labor.

My daughter has been doing the S.A.T. since kindergarten. Tests don’t bother her. She works hard and has bo fear of tests.

BTW, what is the difference between the A.C.T. and the S.A.T.. Her school doesn’t have the kids take the A.C.T. - just the S.A.T..


39 posted on 07/14/2007 7:14:07 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Pure Country
Some kids do “freeze” under the pressure - no doubt but still it is not a reason to “abolish” an objective test. It appears your children are motivated and intelligent and it SHOWS regardless of tests. Your kids put allot into their studies and it shows - although not on the test and still they are accomplished!

I’ve heard about the “probation” system where they don’t score well but other factors let them attend - so there’s a good method to let them enjoy the fruits of their labor.

My daughter has been doing the S.A.T. since kindergarten. Tests don’t bother her. She works hard and has no fear of tests.

BTW, what is the difference between the A.C.T. and the S.A.T.. Her school doesn’t have the kids take the A.C.T. - just the S.A.T.. It pays to use a spell checker ... .

42 posted on 07/14/2007 7:15:16 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Pure Country

ACT and SAT test are IQ tests. There is a formula to convert between them. Ditto for the military aptitude tests.


69 posted on 07/14/2007 7:39:43 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Those that can do, do. Those that can't do, teach. Those that can't do either, run for office)
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To: Pure Country

I love hearing stories like the one about your daughter.

I have 2 gifted kids, and a special needs kid. My special needs kid has speech and language and short term memory problems. It takes her IQ scores down to around 100.

The thing is that my special needs kid works harder than the other 2 gifted kids. This summer she has read tons more books (1500 minutes of reading so far this summer). She writes in a journal every day. Every day, she’s been studying spelling words that her teacher gave her to work on over the summer. She routinely does math and language art worksheets. She’s very organized and motivated.

My special needs daughter is gifted at math, and that does make like better. I just think with her great math skills and her work ethic, she will do better in the real world than her “gifted” brother and sister.


99 posted on 07/14/2007 9:11:47 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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