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'River of Guns' Flowing from U.S. to Mexico
newsmax.com ^ | July 13, 2007 | some Reuters hack

Posted on 07/14/2007 6:16:13 AM PDT by ovrtaxt

PHOENIX -- When machine gun-toting hit men fought a bloody battle with police and troops around the Mexico town of Cananea that left 23 dead in May, it at first seemed to be the latest chapter in a very Mexican drug war.

But as U.S. and Mexican detectives subsequently traced powerful assault weapons recovered from the battlefield to Texas and Arizona, it raised the curtain on a deadly and controversial flow of arms from the United States.

A war without quarter for control of cocaine, marijuana, methamphetamine and heroin trafficking routes has killed 1,300 people this year in Mexico, and has created a huge demand among rival drug gangs for weapons of all kinds, authorities say.

Gun sales are illegal in Mexico, and many of the firearms used in Mexican crime are simply bought over-the-counter in the United States, where everything from pistols to high-powered assault rifles can be obtained legally, detectives say.

The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) estimates that gunrunners haul thousands of weapons a week over the border to Mexico, and they say demand is voracious.

"Just as you see the flow of drugs that comes north, there is an iron river of guns that flows south into Mexico to supply criminal organizations on the border," said Tom Mangan, senior special agent with ATF in Phoenix.

"They are in the market for machine guns, hand grenades, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and Stinger anti-aircraft missiles . . . It's like they are outfitting an army," he added.

The ATF says the gangs favor high-powered AR-15 and Kalashnikov assault rifles, semi-automatic versions of which can be bought at gun shops and gun shows. Also in demand are the drug lords' favorite: heavily decorated Colt

.38 Super pistols.

The guns were made popular by the late Juarez cartel capo Amado Carrillo Fuentes in the 1990s, whose monogrammed Colt encrusted with emeralds is exhibited in a drug trafficking museum in Mexico.

"It's like a general who has a commemorative sidearm, these guns are status symbols for the drug lords," said Mangan.

Investigators say the illicit trade is border-wide and the cartels are resourceful.

To ensure a steady supply of weapons to drug killers in the badlands of northeast Mexico in the 1990s, notorious Gulf cartel founder Juan Garcia Abrego bought seven gun shops in Brownsville, Texas, and used them to run guns south.

Nowadays police say criminal fixers known as "gatekeepers" who live in Mexican border towns rely on networks of buyers who shop to order in the United States.

Many traffickers buy weapons from private sellers at gun shows where transactions often leave no paper trail. Others pay intermediaries $50 to $100 a time to make multiple "straw purchases" on their behalf at gun shops.

"We have seen them use the little old guy on the park bench, or homeless people ... to buy guns on their behalf," said William Newell, ATF special agent in charge of the Phoenix field division.

Detectives say the traffickers often make several trips a day over the border with a trunk full of weapons, selling them in Mexico for a markup of 300 to 400 percent.

Specialist cartel armorers then set to work retrofitting the semi-automatic rifles to turn them in to machine guns, some using a high degree of workmanship.

"We've seen guns that were milled and converted that looked like they were done in a factory," Newell said.

The vigorous black market trade has stirred up a storm of criticism south of the border, where Mexican Attorney General Eduardo Medina slammed slack U.S.

gun laws as "absurd."

Mexico announced in May that it was setting up an intelligence network with U.S. law enforcement agencies to try to stamp out the trade.

As part of that effort the ATF has agents stationed in Mexico -- in the capital and in the industrial powerhouse of Monterrey south of Texas -- working to train, support and share intelligence with Mexican counterparts.

A key part of that drive is to trace crime guns by running their serial numbers through ATF databases to build up a detailed picture of where each weapon was bought and by whom in a bid to nail the gatekeepers and armorers.

But with a drug-fueled war machine to the south and an estimated 200 million guns in private hands in the United States, ATF agents are under no illusion that it will be easy.

"We are at a crossroads where firearms trafficking and the drug trade come together," Mangan said. "It really is the perfect storm."

© Reuters 2007.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; armstrade; banglist; bordersecurity; fence; gunsmuggling; mexico; nau; wod; wodlist
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First of all, this is an obvious gun grabber hit piece by Reuters. Second of all, I wonder how many of these weapons originate with illegals acting as conduits for these gangs?
1 posted on 07/14/2007 6:16:14 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
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To: ovrtaxt

Seal the border up tight and problem solved for both sides.

No guns across for them, no drugs and swarms of illegals across for us.

Of course, Mexico might actually have to figure out how to actually establish an economy once the cash flowing from the US is cut off too.


2 posted on 07/14/2007 6:19:25 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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If Mexico wants to control the guns in their country, maybe it’s also in their best interest to seal off the border.
3 posted on 07/14/2007 6:19:59 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: The_Victor

I don’t think they want to. Drugs are big bux for them.


4 posted on 07/14/2007 6:21:02 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Another liberal litany of lies! No doubt, they will try to blame the NRA! Mexico’s constitution GUARENTEES the right to possess firearms - yet their courts have said that very wording FORBIDS it! Who are they taking lessons from - our 9th Circus Court of A-squeals?


5 posted on 07/14/2007 6:22:18 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: ovrtaxt

Good fences do make good neighbors!


6 posted on 07/14/2007 6:24:08 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: ovrtaxt
Some one please tell me where I can get machine guns, hand grenades, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and Stinger anti-aircraft missiles across the counter.
7 posted on 07/14/2007 6:24:53 AM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: Hazcat
You know I was wonderin the same thing. I do not remember “gun shows” selling heavy artillery.
8 posted on 07/14/2007 6:27:02 AM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate tag lines but I don't know how...)
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To: VaRepublican

Obviously we need a wall from sea to shining sea to keep the trafficing of everything down.


9 posted on 07/14/2007 6:29:16 AM PDT by omega4179 (No longer defending Clueless George here....6 years was enough.)
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To: ovrtaxt

The drug trade- a big reason why so many in Washington want the borders open. Either they get a cut of the profits, or they know what will happen in the US if the border is sealed. The drug wars will begin at the border and move in to the US. Even more than now.


10 posted on 07/14/2007 6:29:50 AM PDT by whipitgood (Let's burn some MEXICAN flags!)
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To: VaRepublican
Although that would be cool! I'd love to have this:


11 posted on 07/14/2007 6:30:33 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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Btw “We have seen them use the little old guy on the park bench, or homeless people ... to buy guns on their behalf,” said William Newell, ATF special agent in charge of the Phoenix field division. I haven't purchased in a long time but don't you have to have a legit home address?
12 posted on 07/14/2007 6:30:46 AM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate tag lines but I don't know how...)
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To: VaRepublican

Maybe we have been going to the wrong gun shows....

I would love a sound suppressed, full auto MP-5. Unfortunately since I live in NY it will have to just dream.


13 posted on 07/14/2007 6:32:08 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: whipitgood

The drug war also provides the control freaks with an excuse to pass ever more restrictive laws on free citizens.


14 posted on 07/14/2007 6:32:16 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: The_Victor
I remember crossing into Mexico on foot in the 70’s and just followed along with the others (mostly Mexicans, I assume) who were all just ignoring the Mexican border crossing where the vehicles were passing through. Coming back, we did stop at US customs and were waved through. If they have an issue, they could leave the fence we accidentally built a few inches over the border in Mexico and help control the traffic.
15 posted on 07/14/2007 6:33:38 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Wow now the Meixicans want the borders closed too... LOL...


16 posted on 07/14/2007 6:34:26 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Conservatives that use emotion to hype issues without relying on facts are just as bad as Liberals .)
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To: ovrtaxt
This is "dog bites man" story, as I knew someone in the mid-70s, let's say, who would load up a pickup with guns [no ammo] and bring back hooch.

Therefore, it's been the same way for years....YAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

17 posted on 07/14/2007 6:34:28 AM PDT by BlabItGrabIt (Get Away from the Blind Side of Life--S.R. Vaughn)
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To: ovrtaxt


18 posted on 07/14/2007 6:34:44 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: B4Ranch; Kimberly GG; nicmarlo; Joe Brower

You guys have ping lists that pertain to this, right?


19 posted on 07/14/2007 6:35:18 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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***A war without quarter for control of cocaine, marijuana, methamphetamine and heroin trafficking routes has killed 1,300 people this year in Mexico, and has created a huge demand among rival drug gangs for weapons of all kinds, authorities say.***

Illegals kill that many per month. What are they complaining about?


20 posted on 07/14/2007 6:39:34 AM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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