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To: balch3
... how far we have fallen from the founding fathers. From a Christian Nation to persecuting Christians for their beliefs.

The First Amendment specifically prohibits the United States of America from having an established religion, be it Christian or Jewish or Muslim or Hindu or Druid.

If you want to live in a nation that is legally "Christian", then you need to move to Great Britain where the Church of England is still the established religion.

These people were not arrested "for their beliefs". They were arrested for creating a public nuisance in the Senate just as they would have been arrested if they had started chanting "No blood for oil!", "Clinton was a rapist!", "Go New York Yankees!' or "Save the gay whales!".

Once you applaud the Left-wing tactic of shouting down what you do not like, including the prayers of other religions protected under the First Amendment, then don't be surprised when others who do not follow your religion decide that they have a right to start shouting down your prayers.

18 posted on 07/13/2007 3:36:24 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius
I agree. If Christians are to be allowed free expression of religion by the state, then other religions must be allowed free expression. This was not a case of persecution for Christian beliefs; this was a case of Christians persecuting others for their beliefs.

Furthermore, the idea of shouting out from the Visitor’s Galley is odious. We don’t want Cindy Sheehan to make a fuss? We must follow the same rules.

20 posted on 07/13/2007 3:41:05 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: Polybius
Furthermore, the idea of shouting out from the Visitor’s Galley is odious. We don’t want Cindy Sheehan to make a fuss? We must follow the same rules.

Unfortunately we have our own Christian "Taliban" here in America.

48 posted on 07/13/2007 4:20:15 PM PDT by cerberus
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To: Polybius
These people were not arrested "for their beliefs". They were arrested for creating a public nuisance in the Senate

Agreed. We don't need "Christian patriots" acting like typical leftist moonbats, disrupting things. And this brings to light the problem with these sorts of prayers. The true believer is offended if the prayer does not match his beliefs, so prayer is either offensive to many people or else it is watered down to nothing. And this allows the leftists to pose as protectors of tolerance while we know that they would oppose any Christian prayer. What is all this "Christian patriot" business, anyways? Some people on the right mix God and nationalism like some people on the left mix God and socialism.

58 posted on 07/13/2007 6:25:43 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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