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1 posted on 07/13/2007 11:13:08 AM PDT by JZelle
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Benedict has chosen a poor route to take in attempting to reconcile Protestants with the Church in Rome.


2 posted on 07/13/2007 11:15:56 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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The pope?

Yawn.


25 posted on 07/13/2007 11:40:13 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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I don’t know why anybody is up in arms about what the Pope said. Obviously, he doesn’t think other churches are doing things right or he wouldn’t be Catholic. I disagree with him, but I don’t see why I’d be offended at him stating what he or his church believe.

This reminds me of some Jews that were all outraged that Mormons were doing ‘proxy baptisms’ of Jews killed in the Holocaust. Like, what do you care?


31 posted on 07/13/2007 11:49:25 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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Seems to me the Pope said "Catholics are not Protestants, and Protestants are not Catholics". Yeah, pretty controversial stuff there.

Of course, there are those of every ideological persuasion who spend their entire day looking to be insulted or outraged. They apparently enjoy milking this little nugget for all it's worth.

34 posted on 07/13/2007 11:51:31 AM PDT by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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Meanwhile, the one true church stays below the fray.

39 posted on 07/13/2007 11:55:03 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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All I know is when I wash with my Pope on a rope soap, I feel cleaner...


40 posted on 07/13/2007 11:55:19 AM PDT by trailboss800
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So I guess we should add back to the THE WESTMINSTER CONFESSION OF FAITH. A.D. 1647 the following:

VI. There is no other head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ nor can the Pope of Rome, in any sense be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin and son of perdition, that exalteth himself in the Church against Christ, and all that is called God.

I don't think so, but it isn't any worse than what the Pope said against Protestants.

52 posted on 07/13/2007 12:08:50 PM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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Protestants and others were upset five years ago, as they are now, but it's hardly news that religious denominations, including the Catholics, regard themselves as "the one true church." Only yesterday pulpit rhetoric was considerably harsher than anything Benedict is saying. Protestant preachers regularly denounced the pope's church as "the great whore of Rome," the pope as the anti-Christ and his works as the works of the devil. The Roman church is only the largest of the denominations claiming to be the church established by Christ.

Not many of the various sects of Christianity believe other sects are equally valid.

55 posted on 07/13/2007 12:13:01 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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We are so sensitive and PC these days.

I don't see the big deal with the statement. I thought it was understood that the Church of Rome considered themselves the only true church.

If Rome claims to be the true church, fine ... let's examine the claim ... and if it is false, strongly and publicly refute it. But enough of the whining ... "Mommy, the Pope said something mean to me!"

If Catholics believe that their church is the only reliable path to salvation, it is not "hatred" or "bigotry" to say so.

Conversely, if I believe that the Roman church is "the great harlot, mystery Babylon, drunk with the blood of the saints" ... I shouldn't be called a hater or anti-Catholic bigot for saying so.

My, haven't we become soft! At any rate, maybe the poor liberal Protestants whining about how this "doesn't help the cause of reconciliation" will get a clue about the type of reconciliation Rome has in mind.

83 posted on 07/13/2007 1:20:28 PM PDT by Oliver Optic (Never blame on strategery that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
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I love this pope. I hope he’s having a wonderful, restorative vacation.


98 posted on 07/13/2007 1:44:20 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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I can’t adequately address this major question. In fact, I still don’t understand why, if Jesus was a Jew, His parents gave him a Puerto Rican name....


102 posted on 07/13/2007 1:53:43 PM PDT by tracer
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Fine with me. I’m Reformed. I have no problem with the goat recognizing there is a difference between his “flock” and the true Bride of Christ.
104 posted on 07/13/2007 2:01:13 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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“and Catholicism provides the only true path to salvation”

Funny, I always thought Jesus was the only WAY to the Father. Silly me reading this silly book.


115 posted on 07/13/2007 2:19:46 PM PDT by Grunthor (Wouldn’t it be music to our ears to hear the Iranian mullahs shouting “Incoming!”?)
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The Pope’s opinion of my faith is as important as a fart in a hurricane.
I’m only concerned with the Lord’s opinion, and that ain’t Pope Benedict.


117 posted on 07/13/2007 2:24:55 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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Benedict needs to be calling for a Crusade against the islamofascists, not attacking fellow Christians.


177 posted on 07/13/2007 10:42:31 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's as simple as ABC - Anyone But Clinton (that includes Osama Hussein OBama too))
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The press has been full
of “Vatican Denies Other Christians Have a Right to Have Churches,” “Pope
tells Protestants They’re Going to Hell,” and other frothing nonsense.

I guess it’s too much trouble to expect headline writers to actually read
the flippin Vatican document.

It’s very short (5 paragraphs) and it contains nothing new: basically a
precise and carefully-worded definition of how the Catholic Church uses the
word “church.”

It does not deny the presence of God’s grace in other Christian communions,
but reiterates -— to nobody’s real surprise, I should think -— that the
Catholic Church still holds the unbroken historic succession from the
Apostles, upon whom Christ built His church, and which is an essential element of how Catholics define ‘church.’

Others will disagree, naturally. But it does help for people to state
straight out how they define their words. Otherwise, there’s no real
grappling with solid ideas, and “ecumenical dialog” sinks into a blather
of
whipped egg whites, corn syrup, and air.


183 posted on 07/14/2007 10:42:03 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Thinking out loud...)
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