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The Second Commandment Republicans (Huckabee likes Rick Warren and Purpose Driven)
time.com ^ | Mar. 15, 2007 | JOE KLEIN

Posted on 07/12/2007 4:30:10 PM PDT by Terriergal

Huckabee is a political inconvenience, a destroyer of stereotypes. He is probably best known as the fellow who lost 100 lbs. in a year, and made living well through exercise and good nutrition one of his signature issues as Governor. But the real significance of Huckabee--and, to a lesser extent, Brownback--is that he represents the introduction of a new constituency into the political process: "Second Commandment" Christians, those more interested in salvation than damnation, people like the California pastor Rick Warren, author of The Purpose Driven Life. Huckabee says, "Our church in Little Rock is very similar to Rick Warren's. We've gone from 25 members to about 5,000 in eight years. Our focus has been to minister to people who were otherwise neglected. We built a ministry center before we even had a sanctuary. We held our services in warehouses until a year or two ago." The center contains a range of faith-based initiatives: welfare to work, job training, programs for recovering alcoholics and drug addicts, a food bank. "We are a multicultural, multiracial congregation, with rich and poor," Huckabee says. "I play the bass in the Praise band."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: apostasy; faithbased; fauxchristians; huckabee; illegalimmigration; purposedriven; purposeriven; rickwarren; trendychristians
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Oh goody. I'm thrilled.
1 posted on 07/12/2007 4:30:15 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Terriergal

I never gave Huckabee a serious look. Now I know why! LOL!


2 posted on 07/12/2007 4:33:17 PM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Terriergal

This is just Time magazine trying to spread dissention among Republicans by sterotyping them as either loose-living hedonists or Hell-fire & Damnation Christians. Oh yes, add a third type — cultists who are probably secret polygamists. I’m not buying any of it. Don’t slam our fine Republican candidates — any of them stand head and shoulders about the alternatives.

Time backs Hillary and Barack.


3 posted on 07/12/2007 4:36:30 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Terriergal
I'm thrilled for Huckabee and his fellow candidates with no rationale for their candidacy to drop out.

Duncan Hunter has a coherent platform and a niche as the conservative candidate. Ron Paul is holding down the libertarian front. Brownback could represent the Bible-thumpers but his campaign has been very disappointing to me. Hunter makes Tancredo's one-note campaign redundant. Gilmore and TT have no campaigns. McCain is on the way out.

Obviously I'd like to get rid of Rudy and Romney the most, but they're not giving up any time soon.

4 posted on 07/12/2007 4:37:56 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Romney : "not really trying to define what is technically amnesty. I'll let the lawyers decide.")
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To: Terriergal
The author of the piece is very selective when quoting Chesterton. Chesterton also pointed out that when people break the big laws, they don't get no law, they get "the small laws."

I don't think he'd be a big fan of Huckabee's preaching about weight loss and his incorporating "healthy eating" into subsiudized medicine. Quite rotund himself, Chesterton frequently attacked and lampooned vegetarians, anti-smokers and health-crazed zealots in general.
5 posted on 07/12/2007 4:40:08 PM PDT by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Terriergal
Second Commandment" Christians, those more interested in salvation than damnation..

Without the truth about damnation, what's the need for salvation? What are you being saved from? Poverty? Hunger? Joblessness?

6 posted on 07/12/2007 4:40:16 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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Rick Warren has signed on to the Global Warming crapola.


7 posted on 07/12/2007 4:40:48 PM PDT by Montanabound
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Anyone that can’t see through Rick Warren’s false teaching isn’t worth voting for in my book.


8 posted on 07/12/2007 4:44:31 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: sittnick

I tend to agree. All this ‘get healthy’ stuff reminds me of old german propaganda films I’ve seen on the History Channel.


9 posted on 07/12/2007 4:45:30 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: JohnnyZ

yep.


10 posted on 07/12/2007 4:46:18 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I think you nailed it. It’s the social gospel/liberation theology.


11 posted on 07/12/2007 4:46:57 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Without the truth about damnation, what's the need for salvation?

My exact thought the moment I started reading the article.

Without knowing about damnation, how does one truely know about grace?

12 posted on 07/12/2007 4:48:26 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Without the truth about damnation, what's the need for salvation? What are you being saved from? Poverty? Hunger? Joblessness?

The ugly, redeeming truth that never/rarely seems to see the light of day in a Purpose Driven church.

13 posted on 07/12/2007 4:49:40 PM PDT by bubbacluck
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To: Terriergal
Anyone that can’t see through Rick Warren’s false teaching isn’t worth voting for in my book.

Have you read the Purpose-Driven Church? After hearing lots of criticism of his seeker-friendly methods, I read the book. It was not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. One thing that his critics seem to miss is that the seeker-friendly church model does not replace the traditional discipleship church model but is done in addition. His church does the traditional service for members on Wednesday and uses the Sunday service for outreach to the unchurched.

I'm not a fan of Rick Warren's methods and their apparent superficiality but I commend him on his concern for the Great Commission. It would be nice to see more churches have the same enthusiasm about presenting the Gospel to the lost.

14 posted on 07/12/2007 5:08:27 PM PDT by CommerceComet
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To: mountn man
I agree! I really get tired of people over looking all the good that conservative Christians do. The number of people they have fed, clothed, helped with house payments, drilled water wells for, provided medicine for and the list goes on and on. The problem is conservative christians are not out there saying look at me, see how much I care, how much I give.
15 posted on 07/12/2007 5:12:45 PM PDT by sugarbabe
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To: Terriergal
For preachers like Jerry Falwell, James Dobson and Pat Robertson, the prospect of hell has always been far more vivid than the possibility of heaven. Presidential candidates like Robertson, Pat Buchanan and Gary Bauer have loaded up on the "Thou Shalt Nots" and rarely, if ever, mentioned the grace and serenity that come from doing "for the least of these."

What?

This writer is obviously out of touch. He's probably never even watched the 700 club.

16 posted on 07/12/2007 5:17:06 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: Terriergal

I’m sorry Huckabee mentioned Rick Warren here; it detracts from the crediblity of the church work. It appears Huckabee’s church is doing what the church should do, and did — before the welfare state became so prevalent.


17 posted on 07/12/2007 5:17:59 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (You can lead a liberal to talk radio, but you can't make him think.)
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To: Terriergal

Well, this tells me Huckabee’s judgement is very suspect.


18 posted on 07/12/2007 5:39:48 PM PDT by miele man (Continually voting against iodine deficient libs for 42 years)
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To: Terriergal; Gamecock

PING!!!

DEFINATELY OFF MY RADAR SCREEN.

MACARTHUR ON FALSE PROPHETS:

http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/Grace_to_You/archives.asp?bcd=2/27/2007


19 posted on 07/12/2007 5:42:21 PM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: alpha-8-25-02

Sure seems to fit the name HUCKaBEE, I don’t think he is Presidential Timber, plus who would vote for anyone from Arkansas?


20 posted on 07/12/2007 5:49:42 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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