Posted on 07/12/2007 12:36:37 PM PDT by GOP_Raider
I am with the poster who said “dems da rules”
These guys are getting free education, room and food. They need to follow the rules and enjoy their free ride for the years that it is in existance. If they make the pros, good on them. In addition I hate the NCAA - they are not consistant and play favorites. Let’s just call the college level sport what they really are: FARM LEAGUES FOR THE PROS. Let the players represent the school and have the boosters pay their way and leave the scholarships for the ones who want the education (players included). JMO, but there ya go!
I was just thinking, is my bookie is going to return my money on all those games I lost when I bet against OU?
You are correct, but Alabama got hammered for something very similar back in the 1990s. After Alabama defeated Miami to win the national championshop, Antonio Langham signed with an agreement with an agent on a cocktail napkin - it was not made public. Soon afterward, he changed his mind and told the agent he didn't mean it.
Gene Stallings somehow heard rumors about the incident and called Langham in ask what happened. The player denied anything happened and Stallings took him at his word.
That wasn't good enough for the NCAA so Alabama got hammered. In fact, it lead directly to the sanctions that devastated the program years later as they were tried under repeat offender status because a basketball violation extended the probationary period.
The bottom line is that if the NCAA wants you then they'll get you. The collolary to this is that if the NCAA does not want you (e.g. USC, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Ohio State) then the school can do anything it wants and no significant punishment will come.
There is no way the NCAA would have made Oklahoma forfeit games if it had occurred during their championship year.
There's no way they can take away the wins.
It’s a non factor except now the historical score books will have to have an asterisk added to deal with the NAACP ruling.
The school should have kept the players on scholarship and played them possibly winning a National Championship and say to hell with being an ethical program.
I guarantee you that not one in 10 NCAA schools would have voluntarily kicked their future championship off the team.
Please don’t (sarc) give Coach Stoops who I have met and really like any credit for taking matters into his own hands and dealing severely with the players.
I know thats what any good liberal would do, justify that their players were manipulated by an evil booster.
Hells bells there is all kinds of situations to prove that liberal sports fans have a different and separate set of ethics when dealing with their own.
Personally I was proud of the way Oklahoma dealt with a couple of cheaters who sacrificed their ethics for a few unearned dollars.
Oh please. If “dems da rules” apply them to the people who broke them, not OU, which acted quickly to punish those two twerps. The whole team suffered what two guys did.
“The NCAA has you brainwashed in thinking that what these guys did was morally wrong in some way,’
You mean when the Mafia has guys getting paid union wages by contractors but the guys never show up to the job, it’s okay?
I wonder how long this reporter would keep his job if he never showed up and never sent in anything to print? And would it be immoral to fire him?
"Only loser's complain about the bad calls."
LOL, I hear that lament a lot during poker games when someone is the vicitm of a bad beat. Only they literally are “losers” in this case. :)
To an ostensibly liberal sportswriter...yes.
Teams are allowed to sign a maximum of 25 players a year. The overall team limit is 85 scholarships. Most big time programs sign 25 every year as there is almost always attrition.
Losing 2 scholarships is nothing. Oklahoma should be very happy.
I agree, this is a slap on the wrist. But I am sure that Stoops won't see it that way.
My understanding is that most schools are close to the limit, and they suit 60 per game...
The I-AA limit is 63 scholarships, as I recall...I’m not sure how many dress.
I took graduate classes at OSU and during football season the OSU fans would root against OU no matter who they played.
Yet when I took classes down at OU they always seem to root for OSU to win all but the bedlam game.
Not everyone at both school but more so at OSU than at OU.
I root for both schools to do well and let the best team win every Fall.
I think SEVEN NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS speak louder than words.
As a fan I have had more opportunities to cheer for wins than loses.
One more thing, I am not one bit ashamed to say I root for the Sooners no matter where in the world I am living.
Whether it be in South America or Kalifornia.
They can, and they did.
Any OU fan that wants to cry won’t have a shoulder here. After what the NCAA did to UM in the mid 90’s, I have no sympathy for any program.
The only thing that does bother me is that USC, even after all the Reggie Bush stuff, among other things tied to their “boosters” and others involved with the program, is still skating free in the world of college football. If OU fans want to complain about that, I’ll listen, and most likely agree.
At the end of the day, it’s all about what’s politically correct. And it’s not politically correct to tarnish such stellar programs as USC and Ohio State, but as long as it’s Miami, Bama, or OU, it’s fine. I’d love to see consistency in the NCAA, but sadly, I doubt that will ever happen.
...or Boise, Idaho. Sorry. Even I will admit that was a cheap shot.
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