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"Truth be told" about Chimp-Human DNA comparisons (1% difference a "myth")
Access Research Network ^ | July 2, 2007 | David Tyler

Posted on 07/10/2007 10:17:24 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: xzins
Very well said, dear brother in Christ! Thank you!!!
41 posted on 07/10/2007 11:18:48 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Porterville

==READ A THIRD GRADE SCIENCE BOOK ALREADY!!!

Sorry, I have long since surpassed your level of science education, and I refuse to go back.


42 posted on 07/10/2007 11:21:57 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Then how do we explain Mike Tyson?


43 posted on 07/10/2007 11:23:32 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: ZULU

Where is MacDonald’s taking us????
__________________________________________________________

Ever see the Married With Children episode with the “healthiest man in Chicago?”

AL) C’mon, everybody, family meeting. [they all sit] Now, Peg, I know you think you’re responsible for killing Jim. And yet you have no guilt of squashing the life out of me, but that’s another meeting. Anyway, what I’m saying is, you didn’t kill Jim. Good health killed Jim. See, he purified his body so completely, that when finally called on to do so, he couldn’t handle the grease and sugar and toxic waste that we call food. He rendered himself extinct. See, healthy people are like dinosaurs. They’re not fit to survive. Jim’s body couldn’t the burgers and bonbons and pastry suckin’s like real Americans. You see, Peg, WE are the truly strong.

PEGGY) You really think so, Al?

AL) Absolutely. See that cockroach over there?

PEGGY) [points] That one?

AL) [points] No, that one. Well, any one of them. You don’t see them carrying of a can of Wheat Germ, do you?

KELLY) Gurm, Dad.

AL) Thank you, Pumpkin. Anyhow, Peg, let’s follow the example of our friend the cockroach. They were before man, they’ll be here after man. You know why? They eat crap. And I say, if it’s good enough for the cockroach, then it’s good enough for my family!


44 posted on 07/10/2007 11:25:08 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: fish hawk

Maybe he has a distant relative by the name of Goliath d:op


45 posted on 07/10/2007 11:26:25 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: SMARTY

Then why do great apes and man share the exact same genetic defect that makes it impossible for us to make our own vitamin C?


46 posted on 07/10/2007 11:26:45 AM PDT by RFC_Gal (It's not just a boulder; It's a rock! A ro-o-ock. The pioneers used to ride these babies for miles!)
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To: SengirV
And now that it’s 6%, does it really make all that much of a difference?

LOL - exactly. The fact remains that chimps are our closest living relatives, sharing 94% of our DNA, with gorillas right behind them. It's more interesting to me that a 6% variation in DNA can result in such significant differences between our species.
47 posted on 07/10/2007 11:28:07 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: curiosity; Porterville; js1138; SengirV; Alamo-Girl
Re my layman's explanation at #36 above, The Economist had a couple of interesting articles recently that describe why the seemingly similar DNA among life forms is not the key factor in determining complexity:

From The RNA Revolution, Biology's Big Bang:
...RNA has been known about for a long time. Until the past couple of years, however, its role had seemed restricted to fetching and carrying for DNA and proteins. Now RNA looks every bit as important as those two masters...
...molecular biologists have gone from thinking that they know roughly what is going on in their subject to suddenly realising that they have barely a clue...

From RNA, Really New Advances:
...RNA has been more or less neglected as a humble carrier of messages and fetcher of building materials. This account of the cell was so satisfying to biologists that few bothered to look beyond it. But they are looking now. For, suddenly, cells seem to be full of RNA doing who-knows-what. And the diversity is staggering...
...Genes were once thought of almost exclusively as repositories of information about how to build proteins. Now, they need to be seen for what they really are: RNA factories. Genes for proteins may even be in the minority. In a human, the number of different microRNAs, one of the commonest of the newly discovered sorts of RNA, may be as high as 37,000 according to Isidore Rigoutsos, IBM's genome-miner in chief. That compares with the 21,000 or so protein-encoding genes that people have...

...Knowing that DNA stores data that then get translated into living organisms, and that the complexities of development must require lots of information, biologists naturally expected that the more intricately formed an organism is, the more genes it would have in its cells. They therefore struggled when they found that C. elegans, a tiny worm that lacks a proper brain but is nevertheless widely studied by geneticists, has about 20,000 genes—only a little bit short of the number in a human. Indeed, this seems to be a general number for animals. Another geneticists' favourite, the fruit fly Drosophila, has a similar number. But, of course, the genes in question are protein-coding genes. Add in the genes whose RNA does other things and the balance changes.
It changes even more if exactly what those RNA molecules do is examined. Single microRNAs, for example, often regulate the levels of hundreds of different proteins. They are like powerful strings controlling copious protein puppets. Super-imposed on this, some types of regulatory RNA edit other kinds of RNA. The effect of extra genes for both of these sorts of RNA molecules is therefore multiplicative rather than additive.
In the complexity stakes, it is not how many protein-coding genes you have, but how you regulate them, that counts.

48 posted on 07/10/2007 11:31:03 AM PDT by sanchmo
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To: RFC_Gal
Don’t know, don’t care. We are different and we are BETTER than monkeys. You ain’t going to talk me around that.
49 posted on 07/10/2007 11:32:05 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: SMARTY

At least chimps do not use the “word” ain’t


50 posted on 07/10/2007 11:34:17 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: GodGunsGuts

Evolutionists, environmentalists, and liberals in general lie as a matter of course.


51 posted on 07/10/2007 11:35:23 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: SengirV

Where did you lose your understanding of satire?


52 posted on 07/10/2007 11:37:19 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: SMARTY

In short the facts don’t matter to you because your feelings are more important?


53 posted on 07/10/2007 11:37:28 AM PDT by RFC_Gal (It's not just a boulder; It's a rock! A ro-o-ock. The pioneers used to ride these babies for miles!)
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To: stinkerpot65

Examples?


54 posted on 07/10/2007 11:37:52 AM PDT by RFC_Gal (It's not just a boulder; It's a rock! A ro-o-ock. The pioneers used to ride these babies for miles!)
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To: fireforeffect
Darwin himself did not believe that Man and other species “evolved” from lower life forms.

Well, perhaps so. But if that's the case, why is the title of his masterwork paraphrased as On the Origin of Species? Is it not a book proposing a hypothetical model for the physical mechanics of speciation?

Please understand, I'm not trying to be argumentative. I'm asking in the interest of information.

55 posted on 07/10/2007 11:38:23 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: SengirV
At least chimps do not use the “word” ain’t

They do when they think people are not listening.

56 posted on 07/10/2007 11:40:54 AM PDT by js1138
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To: SMARTY
Anyone who thinks they are even remotely like monkeys, is an idiot a baboon.
57 posted on 07/10/2007 11:41:32 AM PDT by Dogrobber
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To: GodGunsGuts
Then how do we explain Mike Tyson?

Congratulations. You have inspired your natural audience.

58 posted on 07/10/2007 11:42:47 AM PDT by js1138
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To: Alamo-Girl

About 3 weeks ago my daughter-in-laws younger sister had to be hospitalized for some difficulties involving a disorder that she has called Prater-Willi (sp?) Syndrome. It is a congenital problem that has left her very slow mentally and with a voracious appetite. It is caused by an erased 15th chromosome.

What amazes me is how much incapacitation that small chromosome has caused. On the other hand, she is a very loving, caring, capable human being.

I think the math of genetic make-up will demonstrate that the combinations, permutations, and expressions of such genetic things goes far beyond a mere number count of genes.


59 posted on 07/10/2007 11:43:35 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Today we take as a given that the two species are genetically 99% the same

Yeah but would ya want yer sister marry it?

(Wouldn't wannabe a Monkey's Uncle) heehee
60 posted on 07/10/2007 11:45:44 AM PDT by RedMonqey ( The truth is never PC)
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