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GOP Senator admits link to escort service [D.C. Madam]
Politico ^ | 7/9/07 | Carrie Budoff

Posted on 07/09/2007 8:55:07 PM PDT by freespirited

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To: freespirited

It’s just sex. I don’t really care if he had it with a prostitute. Prostitution is legal in some places and illegal in others. As long as he wasn’t using my money to do it, and he worked it out with his wife and his church, I don’t care. This is a non-story. I’m not sure why anyone would care, except the MSM who wiil use it for sport to try to bring down Republicans.


41 posted on 07/10/2007 12:03:32 AM PDT by de meanr (No Amnesty)
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To: Rembrandt_fan
Your blackmail comment is actually a real concern. I will give you that. That is why the Clinton situation was so bad. We really don't know if we had already been blackmailed at one point.

As for: The term we are looking for here, I think, is ‘damage control’.

Perhaps, but the nature of the confession is head and shoulders above that of the typical Dem.

Clinton: "Listent to me real carefully. I did not have sex with that woman."

Kennedy: "The sleeping pills made me do it."

Typical Dem: "I made a mistake"

This Guy: "I sinned. I accept full responsibility."

It really is different and refreshing, don't you think?

42 posted on 07/10/2007 12:09:09 AM PDT by bluefish (Are you really that thick, or are you simply trolling for fun?)
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To: yahoo

you are awful judgemental there, mr. armchair quarterback


43 posted on 07/10/2007 12:13:36 AM PDT by wafflehouse (When in danger, When in doubt, Run in circles, Scream and Shout!)
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To: de meanr

finally, a post that makes sense


44 posted on 07/10/2007 12:20:46 AM PDT by wafflehouse (When in danger, When in doubt, Run in circles, Scream and Shout!)
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To: wafflehouse

whoops missed #2 lol


45 posted on 07/10/2007 12:21:51 AM PDT by wafflehouse (When in danger, When in doubt, Run in circles, Scream and Shout!)
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To: freespirited

You knew it would be only the Republicans who would be leaked. Fortunately for Vitter, he’s not up again until 2010 and, by then, it will be old news.

As corrupt as most Louisiana pols seem to be, this won’t even show up on the Richter Scale.

FWIW, I think Vitter is smart to acknowledge it now and not let it simmer for weeks or months in a game of political “gotcha”. For that, at least, Vitter has more valor than a former Democrat president.


46 posted on 07/10/2007 12:35:47 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (Global warming? Hell, in Texas, we just call that "summer".)
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To: bluefish

Are we reading about the same guy? He owned up and takes full responsibility. I guess you and others here would like to see him kneeling in a soccer stadium with an AK47 agains his head, even after you admit yourself that you've had your own moral lapses. The reformed drinkers / smokers / etc. are the most sanctimonious I guess, even when speaking of others who claim to be reformed themselves. Everbody should get off their high horse and reconsider the quote from the Senator I pasted above. When have you ever heard a Dem talk like that? That alone paints a picture of sincerity.

The fact that he apologized and took full responsibility doesn't mean that we (the voters) should just forget about it and let it go. I don't think it is asking too much to expect members of Congress to hold themselves to a moral standard higher than the average person. As leaders of our country they should be held to a higher standard.

Approximately 0.00000178% of the United States population are members of Congress. When such a tiny number represents all of the American people, I think it is perfectly reasonable to demand that members of Congress be held to far more exacting standards than the rest of us. Why shouldn't we demand the best from our representatives? Is it too much to ask that congressmen be moral and virtuous to not cheat on their wives?

47 posted on 07/10/2007 12:45:01 AM PDT by Balke
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To: Balke

I don’t really disagree with anything you said in the post to which I’m currently replying. I advanced the same arguments about Clinton and never bought the idea that you can separate the job of President from your personal life.

I was bothered by the silly speculation about the wife’s motivation for staying with the Senator, and moreso, that speculation be stated confidently as fact. That wasn’t about the Senator, or even the wife. There was something personal driving those silly comments.

Also, I was impressed with the nature of the Senator’s apology / confession itself (see my post just prior to yours) and was surprised nobody else had recognized the dramatic difference between that and a typical Dem confession. There was something in it that showed relative character. Character relative to a typical Dem getting busted at least.


48 posted on 07/10/2007 1:05:12 AM PDT by bluefish (Are you really that thick, or are you simply trolling for fun?)
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To: bluefish
You wrote, “It really is different and refreshing, don’t you think?”

Not so different—and given the context—not so refreshing, either. Remember: the evidence against Vitter was immediate and undeniable, while Clinton squirmed on that particular hook for awhile—and would’ve gotten away with it, too, had he not inadvertently left behind DNA evidence on a dress.

Again: it isn’t enough for someone like Vitter, an elected official, to simply apologize when he commits a corrupt act, no harm no foul. ‘Taking full responsibility’ only has meaning if taking that responsibility implies accepting the public and legal consequences of that act. When he publicly admitted to buying the services of a prostitute, he confessed to a crime, thus ‘taking full responsibility’ means he gets arrested, gets processed, gets a court date set, and appears before a judge or pleads out. That’s what happens if you or I commit a relatively minor misdemeanor and admit to it in public. Sins are private, crimes are public.

49 posted on 07/10/2007 1:36:35 AM PDT by Rembrandt_fan
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To: Rembrandt_fan
but evidently unlike Vitter and those like him, I’m willing to own up to those moral lapses

But that's exactly what he did!

This release of information isn't what prompted his change of heart, he did that long ago- as evidenced by his wife's joint response.

Sorry, if you do somehting wrong and try to cover it up, you should be toast. If you do something wrong (and we all do, as you've stated) and deal with it, and admit to it afterwards, that reveals a true depth of good character. Vitter passes. Bush did too, when he talked about his former alcoholism. Did you vote for him?

50 posted on 07/10/2007 4:09:23 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: freespirited
So are the people on that list finally dribbling out?

Um, oh, wait...that doesn't sound right.

Nevermind.

51 posted on 07/10/2007 4:10:49 AM PDT by Erasmus (My simplifying explanation had the disconcerting side effect of making the subject incomprehensible.)
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"I'm a lot more like Lorena Bobbitt than Hillary," Wendy Vitter told Newhouse News. "If he does something like that, I'm walking away with one thing, and it's not alimony, trust me."

If some of the other Republican senators got caught with hookers and had their nads cut off in retribution, that would explain a great deal....

52 posted on 07/10/2007 9:00:30 AM PDT by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: Balke
Well, considering that she told us to "trust her" when she made the statement, then yes I do.

Bottom line...she's using him just as much as he is using her. Textbook marriage of convenience.

I feel sorry for the children.

53 posted on 07/10/2007 10:33:07 AM PDT by yahoo (There IS a solution to illegal immigration. It's called the Mexipult.)
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To: ovrtaxt
I’m not saying Vitter should wear sackcloth and ashes or engage in any kind of public self-flagellation. That kind of abasement is unseemly (witness the Jimmy Swaggart ‘I have sinned’ spectacle years ago). I’m saying that his personal problems go beyond his family. Because of his position and because of the fairly recent nature of this disclosure, he should fall on his sword and resign for the sake of the party.

And yes, knowing of President Bush’s prior struggle with alcoholism, of course I voted for him. Given my own hard-won sobriety, I could definitely empathize. From my own experience, I know transformation of character and change in thinking is possible over time. But that’s the key, isn’t it—time? I am not the man I once was and neither—given all evidence—is the President, whom I support and respect and admire.

Issues of personal transformation aside, it simply isn’t too much to ask of GOP elected officials that they follow a higher standard than their Democratic Party counterparts. I mean, just how difficult can it be to hold the high moral ground on people like Barney Frank, who essentially had a male prostitute doing business out of his home?

54 posted on 07/10/2007 11:14:03 AM PDT by Rembrandt_fan
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