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To: L98Fiero

No, it will be because he’s a ingoramous.

HIV is not spread through pool water or bathing facilities.

HIV is not TB or ecoli.. it doesn’t spread that way.

Go get yourself informed and stop proving yourself a fool.


62 posted on 07/09/2007 11:55:45 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

I like how you declare it “foolish.” Give some facts. Don’t just quote a web page that doesn’t take most of the critical factors into account: the level of the virus in the infected person, the condition of the pool water (chlorine levels), and certainly, the condition of any potential contact person. If you understand why exactly it can’t be spread this way in light of all of these other variables, then state it.

The lists I’ve seen do not suggest precisely what level of chlorine is required to kill HIV in standing water. They also do not account for the mechanical process (if any) in the water and its effect on the virus or on the cells of potential victims—making them more or less susceptible.

What is the survival time in “average” chlorinated water of HIV, TB and Ecoli? You cite these examples but give no support of the assertion. You suggest HIV isn’t spread as TB or E coli. In every place a person will have TB (sputum) or Ecoli, the virus can and will be found, depending on the stage of HIV infection.

At the peak of infection, every part of an AIDS patient’s body will be basically sweating the virus, as more and more cell types become infected (not just t-lymphocytes).
The reason the other two are more contageious than HIV is because they are bacteria (living cells which will fight to survive) versus HIV, which is basically inert and needs help in getting to the cells it infects.

The lists people are posting don’t even take into account the condition of the potential victims and neither do you. Maybe some person in the pool has a compromised immune system from illness or by being on immunosuppressant drugs or something else in the long list of variables. All of these play a role in whether a person will be infected by a particular disease.

My advice to you would be to explain why there is no risk in detail instead jumping in like a parrot and calling everyone idiots because you found a webpage of guidelines which tells everyone “don’t worry. Everything is fine. bla bla bla,” which offers no counter argument, nor raw data (used to make these conclusions), and which was created without any oversight committee. And the list was heavily influenced by politics-I_guarantee_it.


126 posted on 07/09/2007 1:30:50 PM PDT by kbingham
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