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[Texas:]Bilingual program debated
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 07/07/2007 | Gary Scharrer

Posted on 07/08/2007 6:44:42 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch

AUSTIN — Put young children who struggle with English in a classroom with English-speaking students and teach in two languages.

Soon, both groups of children will become bilingual and bi-literate with the youngsters helping each other develop two languages, say supporters of such dual-language immersion.

But others are balking at the experiment that Texas lawmakers approved this spring, contending it's turning children into guinea pigs.

With House Bill 2814, legislators created a six-year pilot program that will test a dual-language program in up to 10 Texas public school districts and 30 campuses.

English was not the first language of more than 731,000 children attending Texas public schools last school year. Those children, identified as "limited English proficient" students, spoke more than 100 foreign languages, although the most common by far was Spanish — spoken by 92 percent of the non-English speakers.

"We know that dual language works, but we have failed to articulate the benefits of placing native English speakers in dual-language programs," said Sen. Leticia Van de Putte, D-San Antonio, sponsor of the Senate version of the bill. "They will learn Spanish or some other language, becoming bilingual and bi-literate. When they are little, you can do that."

How it works

• House Bill 2814 establishes a dual-language education pilot program to study the effectiveness of dual-language education by placing both native English-speaking and non-English-speaking students together in the same classroom.

• The commissioner of education will choose up to 10 school districts and 30 schools to participate in the project.

• The first year of the project is limited to hiring and training teachers and establishing parental and community support for the program.

• The Texas Education Agency must submit an interim report to the Legislature by Jan. 1, 2011, and a final report by Jan. 1, 2013. The reports must show the effect of the project on grade-level completion rates and high school graduation rates.

Learning multiple languages should always be encouraged, said Rep. Debbie Riddle, R-Tomball, although she opposes the pilot project approach.

"I think the purpose behind this is to help bring up to speed Spanish-speaking kids and turning other kids into guinea pigs," she said.

House Public Education Committee Chairman Rob Eissler, R-The Woodlands, said, "The bottom line of life is that we don't all speak the same language." He acknowledged that national debate over immigration has triggered "deep-seated antagonism."

The dual-language method will benefit English-speaking children by giving them a second language, and children will have "built-in tutors sitting next to them," he said. "The kids will teach each other."

The Senate voted 28-2 for the dual-language immersion pilot project, and the House approved the measure 106-34. No Democrat opposed the bill. Among Bexar County lawmakers, only Rep. Frank Corte voted against the bill. He could not be reached for comment.

Riddle said she fears the project will dilute the need for students to master English, which is the international language of aviation and a requirement if children want to become lawyers or physicians.

"I think we are worshipping at the feet of diversity," Riddle said. "There's nothing wrong with diversity, but to minimize English as the primary language of this nation is a mistake, and I think it's a mistake for our kids. Kids need to master the English language, period.

"When you lose the language of a country, then you lose the culture and you lose everything. If we want to keep our country, we need to all be speaking the same language. That language is English."

The issue should not focus on immigration because the law requires Texas to educate all children living here, said Jesse Romero, a San Antonio-based legislative consultant for the Texas Association For Bilingual Education.

"If they are going to be educated, let's do it the right way," Romero said. "If we don't educate the children, we're not going to have a viable work force, and if we don't have a viable and educated work force, we're not going to be attractive to the economic development that our state leaders continue to say that Texas is all about."

Eissler said opponents of his bill believe "immigrants need to bend to us rather than us to them."

But he views the issue in terms of education.

"The more you know, the better off you are, is my theory of life. The more we can teach our kids, the better off we're going to be," Eissler said. "The younger you are, the more adept you are in learning another language, so why do we wait (until) high school to teach language?"

Studies have shown that it costs about 40 percent more to educate limited English students. Texas gives school districts an extra 10 percent of state funding for such students.

Only 8 percent of limited English proficient 10th-graders passed all parts of the state's assessment test in the 2005-06 school year, according to the Texas Education Agency.

And the number of limited English children is increasing. While they made up about 16 percent of all public school children last year, they made up 27 percent of first-graders.

More than 40 percent of the first-grade children in the state's largest urban school districts — Houston, Dallas and Fort Worth — were limited English proficient.

"These school districts do represent a growing statewide trend, and it does pose a significant challenge to our educators," Van de Putte said. "The reality is that the numbers are increasing. We can wring our hands and say the federal government needs to take care of this. But that doesn't help us with outcomes."

Elena Izquierdo, president of the Texas Association for Bilingual Education, is optimistic about the pilot project.

"I think if done the way it should be, if it's well developed with training and well implemented, supervised and monitored, I think they will have some of the top scores in two languages, not just one," said Izquierdo, an associate professor of bilingual education at the University of Texas at El Paso. "It's way overdue that we do this."

Research shows children who learn two languages at an early age outscore students in traditional monolingual classrooms, she said.

"When you are young, you develop a proficiency in sounding like a native speaker of that language, which is why it's a win-win situation for your English-speaking child."

Most Texans probably are not aware of the challenges facing educators with large numbers of limited English proficient students, she said.

Under the program, half of each class where possible would consist of English-speaking children.

Riddle said children should study foreign languages in a separate course and that schools should not force them to learn academic subjects in two languages.

She also believes Spanish-speaking children should learn English by being immersed in English. Some believe that English immersion is the most effective approach.

Izquierdo disagreed. "English immersion is not as positive. It's saying you are broken, and we have to fix you. Teachers are not trained. I call them submersion programs."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; bilingual; immigrantlist; immigration; texas
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To: OKIEDOC
Our little town is 87% Hispanic. The school allows none of the students to speak in Spanish during class.

wow...amazing...and good to hear!

41 posted on 07/08/2007 7:57:21 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("People get the leaders they deserve" (hear that Mexico??))
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To: Niteflyr

Except at Washington Mutual they have the multi-language ATMs, that ticks me off everytime. I won’t use the blue English/Spanish deposit slips unless I cross out all the Spanish first and write Respect “America Learn English” on the top.

This isn’t bi-lingual anything. It is Spanish immersion. The least the illegals could do is learn the frickin’ language like the rest of the foreigners do!


42 posted on 07/08/2007 8:00:49 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

“While they made up about 16 percent of all public school children last year, they made up 27 percent of first-graders.”

Wow...an 11 percent increase in ONE YEAR! Thank you, Jorge, for the browning of Texas at this phenomenal rate. Of course, many Anglo parents are using private schools or home schooling, so that may account for some of this whopping increase. They still have to pay the taxes for the failing public schools, of course.


43 posted on 07/08/2007 8:03:24 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: oneamericanvoice
Except at Washington Mutual they have the multi-language ATMs, that ticks me off everytime. I won’t use the blue English/Spanish deposit slips unless I cross out all the Spanish first and write Respect “America Learn English” on the top.

Use to bank at Foothill Independent in So Cal...they didn't have the bi-lingual ATMs..but they were bought out by Pacific Western....who does use them...if I could crash the "Press 2" part of the menu program believe me I would! I use night drop for deposits or if they had that on a slip I'd do exactly as you do...:o)

44 posted on 07/08/2007 8:05:59 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("People get the leaders they deserve" (hear that Mexico??))
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To: SwinneySwitch
"I think if done the way it should be, if it's well developed with training and well implemented, supervised and monitored, I think they will have some of the top scores in two languages, not just one," said Izquierdo, an associate professor of bilingual education at the University of Texas at El Paso.

How about none, Izquierdo?

English -> left
Spanish -> izquierdo, izq., izquierda
What a coinky-dink.
45 posted on 07/08/2007 8:07:32 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: doc1019

“Because, if things don’t change soon, Spanish will the dominant language spoken in the good ol’ US of A. Don’t you want your kids able to speak the commerce language of America?”

No kidding!!


46 posted on 07/08/2007 8:09:09 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: AnnaZ
English->left

Spanish->izquierdo,izq.,izquierda

What a coinky-dink.

hey...how about that?...:o)

47 posted on 07/08/2007 8:16:10 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("People get the leaders they deserve" (hear that Mexico??))
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To: kittymyrib

What ticks me off is the abrogation of the teaching process to the kids. Saying they can learn from one another. Hmmm, isn’t there supposed to be a teacher instructing them, not the kids instructing one another. Then fire the teacher and let the kids have at it.


48 posted on 07/08/2007 8:16:17 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Thinking out loud while grinding teeth in political frustration)
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To: Niteflyr

Let’s work on a plan to crash that thing, if its legal. I press 2 sometimes, if I’m in a mood, just so I can get a customer service person that gets paid more than the english speaking ones, so that I can give ‘em a hard time. Not a nasty one, just a bit of a hard time.

Write it on the deposit slips &/or envelopes anyway. What are they going to do?


49 posted on 07/08/2007 8:21:44 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: SwinneySwitch
>>How about none, Izquierdo?<<

From down in the land of bilingualism in SoCal, I can tell these people for absolutely certain that all schemes like this accomplish is making two groups of children illiterate and ignorant, instead of possibly one.

They can’t compete in grade school education in English, how in the bloody hell do they think they’re going to compete in two languages!?

50 posted on 07/08/2007 8:22:05 PM PDT by Shion (Hunter 2008! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Niteflyr
;^)

(It's the S[tuff] You Can't Make Up.)

51 posted on 07/08/2007 8:23:46 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: oneamericanvoice
Write it on the deposit slips &/or envelopes anyway. What are they going to do?

I just never thought of it before...thanks!...:o)

52 posted on 07/08/2007 8:24:32 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("People get the leaders they deserve" (hear that Mexico??))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

At least you get it, unlike some others. LOL!


53 posted on 07/08/2007 8:26:16 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: doc1019

er...so all I had to say was “no kidding?!”??
if I’d only known it was that easy....LOL!


54 posted on 07/08/2007 8:29:45 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("People get the leaders they deserve" (hear that Mexico??))
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To: doc1019

Thirty years watching California turn from a place of conservative pristene beauty, into a socialist cesspool will tend to do that to one : )


55 posted on 07/08/2007 8:39:17 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Nadie necesitaran ingles en Aztlan.

Aprenda espanol hoy, evite la prisa manana.


56 posted on 07/08/2007 8:51:29 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; doc1019

Rats...I hate it when I’m wrong...:o)
just got back from visiting the US Department of Commerce’s website and the second link after home ?...”en espanol”
...when I said Spanish “may dominate the service sector but not ever at the level of big business”..I was playing devil’s advocate...I hope that never happens....but it may be worse than I thought...It may be not only happening at the level of truck drivers at Wal-Mart...but Wall Street...:o(


57 posted on 07/08/2007 9:00:29 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("People get the leaders they deserve" (hear that Mexico??))
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To: SwinneySwitch

Did our elected elites in Austin make any plans for the non bilingual teachers in those 10 school districts? I’m sure they don’t want to just lay them off and replace them with Hispanics. I assume they can pick lettuce as they will not have the skills necessary for diversity.


58 posted on 07/08/2007 9:02:38 PM PDT by CHEE (Shoot low, they're crawling.)
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To: CHEE

As an information “bro”, that’s all that counts!


59 posted on 07/08/2007 9:06:26 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: doc1019

Think I’ll move to Australia/sarc....


60 posted on 07/08/2007 9:10:55 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("People get the leaders they deserve" (hear that Mexico??))
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