A Brief History of Mormons and Politics - From Joseph Smith to Mitt Romney

LDS Living Magazine ^ | 07/02/07 | Matthew J. Kennedy

[Asclepius]

I guess Rudy and McCain will support the 2nd amendment?

The trope of the lesser evil. You want me to hold my nose and vote for Romney because he smells less bad than the other candidates? Not going to happen.

[Asclepius]

Care to practice your Ph.D level rhetorical skills on the actual subject of the thread?

Thank you, no. Not worth the time or effort, Romney. But I enjoy ridiculing his few fans and well wishers because they seem to have ridiculously thin skins.

[MHGinTN]

Care for popcorn with that drink, professor?

[restornu]

Mitt Romney on Hannity & Colmes - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxdfj-vM024

[Asclepius]

Care for popcorn with that drink, professor?

Nyet. I get the chewy parts stuck between my teeth. And I look even goofier than usual when I floss in the theatre. BTW: Where do you think all of these unthinking, uncritical, unreflective, and painfully literal Romney partisans came from? Is humourlessness a tenet of the Mormon creed?

[imjustme]

Never thought of myself as a pin head before but as I started reading the article I truly thought it was some type of joke or parody on the church.
I couldn't get past Young's section and just skimmed through the rest. It made me sick to my stomach to see how the LDS can sugar coat their history when it is needed.
It amazes me that any part of the church history that is brought up that doesn't fit todays image of the church is called anti mormon. Most all that I have read on these Mitt threads that bring up valid questions on early teachings of the church are accused as anti mormon.
Is it considered anti mormon that the church at one time taught that the only way blacks (or any non white) would go to heaven would be as our servants??
I read alot of these threads that come out on the church and I am saddened how very little the LDS know their church history. Or the excuses they can come up with for the reasons some things were done as they were.
For the record I was raised Catholic, then spent 20 years of my adult life an active member of the LDS church and raised two of my children in the church.
I got tired of all the sugar coating going on trying to make LDS look the norm as far as Christian churches go. Trying to hide away uncomfortable speeches past 'phophets' made, and so forth. I now attend no church but have a very good relationship with my bible.

[restornu]

...your just another voice from where the sun don’t shine!

Religious bigot http://www.freerepublic.com/~asclepius/

[Asclepius]

You'll have to provide evidence, not just opinion.

Ecce homo! Behold the man! I can offer no better evidence for the perfidy, the knavery, the dishonesty, and the insidiousness of Mitt Romney than Mitt Romney himself, his very person combined with every word he has ever uttered, every act or enterprise he has ever executed. My chief witness against Mitt Romney? Why, Mitt Romney himself, because this witness will contradict every claim that Mitt Romney certifies to be true.

But the topic is a daunting one and admits of no empirical limit. So I suggest we break into groups to brainstorm what it is about Mitt Romney that offends each of us the most. The groups will then rank order their lists and report them to the class.

[MHGinTN]

Pinhead? Hah, ‘m called mucvh worse than that. Want to join the flying Inmans? We’re assaulted for posting inconvenient truths about Mormonism. We even have a list of names we’ve been called! BTW, the popcorn machine is operational ...

[imjustme]

Sounds good to me!

[freeplancer]

I am also glad you have such a special relationship with your bible. It sounds like you really sacrifice for your faith and are in the service of others.

[MHGinTN]

Let me guess ... you’re LDS!

[GOP_Raider]

A Brief History of Mormons and Politics - From Joseph Smith to Mitt Romney

"Ok, look, I'm a Democrat and because of that I'm kind of self centered. Alright, a lot self centered, but anyway, how can you not include me in this you damned criminals?? I was the Orkin Man before the Orkin Man, you hear me?? I'm the Orkin Man!!"

[Revelation 911]

Religious bigotry is never a pretty sight.

as is an unwillingness to acknowledge even the most basic of theological holes

I think a lot of this bickering would be minimized if LDS aherents would simply admit that its founder, its doctrine and theology have aspects that raise questions - as is also the case with calvinism and arminianism....yet everytime they are raised - so is the flag of persecution and personal malignment....hence the introduction of the word bigot into the discussion

[Reaganesque]

This bickering does point out one thing. Since so many traditional Christians have made the point that they view Mormonism as wholly incompatible with traditional Christianity, there exists only two options in the debate: either we are what you say we are, quasi-Christian cultists who have perverted Christ’s doctrines or we are, in fact, a restoration of what was corrupted by the precepts of man over the centuries. Question is: how do you know which is which?

[Revelation 911]

Since so many traditional Christians have made the point that they view Mormonism as wholly incompatible with traditional Christianity, there exists only two options in the debate:

yet you perpetuate the same - why not break the cycle?

Question is: how do you know which is which?

well, the Bible is quite clear for one about seeking discernment from the Holy Spirit.....that works for boths sides of the conversation

even if we disagree with the BOM as a source - can we at least agree on the authority of the Bible, and use that as a source ?

[Mobile Vulgus]

You wrote,

Anyone who is as judgmental as you about what another person believes in as Gospel is a pompous, arrogant ass.

I don’t mind that you will not vote for or support a candidate. Do what you want but stop calling good people names.

That was pretty funny, really. On one hand you call me names then get mad at ME for calling YOU a name.

How's this for calling you a name.... you are a hypocrite.

[Mobile Vulgus]

You are calling Saundra ‘simple minded’. I, for one, take offense.

Sorry, but your "offense" doesn't mean a thing to me. Besides, if you'll go back and ACTUALLY read what I wrote, I said "people who". I didn't say her. If she fits that appellation, it is out of my hands.

[I'm ALL Right!]

"mob murdering of their men, women and children - little babies taken by their feet and brains bashed out on buildings"

....which is exactly what happened on the "Trail of Tears." Sadly, Mormons weren't the only ones who suffered this kind of horrific treatment.