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Lonely and lame, Bush agonises over legacy (Barf Alert!!!)
The Guardian ^ | July 7, 2007 | Ewen MacAskill

Posted on 07/07/2007 8:56:13 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

More defections are expected, and Mr Bush cuts a lonely figure, holed up in the White House fretting over his legacy.....I doubt it and to hell with his legacy! All he has to do is listen to the people who elected him instead of Big Business and whack liberals like Kennedy. If he is going to do “his own thing” then is legacy will be a big goose egg....


41 posted on 07/07/2007 10:25:57 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: janetgreen
Doubled spending of the Border Patrol during his term of office. But that right, Don’t bother the Know Nothings with the facts. Unless some loser never been anything screams it at them for 3 hours 5 days a week on the Radio, they simply ignore those inconvince facts to cling to their bigoted ignorance.
42 posted on 07/07/2007 10:27:26 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: Kaslin

His legacy is secure and that is what makes PravdABDNC crazy. Their hero has a blue dress and President Bush has 50 million freed slaves.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


43 posted on 07/07/2007 10:28:31 AM PDT by bray (Member of the FR President Bush underground)
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To: dragnet2

it’s a fact to you...anybody can sit around and cherrypick issues then make the claim “the Pres doesn’t care what the American people want”....


44 posted on 07/07/2007 10:30:24 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Kaslin

Didn’t read it, and I doubt Bush would either. The only Presidents I know of who obsessed with their legacies were the utter failures carter and clinton.


45 posted on 07/07/2007 10:32:12 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: MNJohnnie; rageaholic

...some people can't follow the news. Libby wasn't pardoned.

I don't mean to be unfair to you personally, MNJohnnie, but your misstatement seemed a good time to highlight the reality distortion field that often affects some of these comments.

rageaholic commented that "liberals are all about nation building, and creating new big government agencies." Iraq: most ambitious nation-building exercise in U.S. history. DHS: largest bureaucracy ever created.

History will remember Bush for what he did, not what they think he did or what they want to believe he did. Personally, I think it won't be a kind assessment, but I, too, am affected by the historical worm's-eye view we all have at this point in time.

46 posted on 07/07/2007 10:34:01 AM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Term Limits: Stop us before we vote again!)
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To: yldstrk

>> Bush’s legacy will be that he saved the USA from a lot of foxes and wolves pulling at our tendons.

It’ll also be a period in which the Democrats were recognized for failing to support the President in a time of war.


47 posted on 07/07/2007 10:35:37 AM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Mr. Know It All

So if a President does what he believes is correct issue by issue, even though the polls and the nation and many in his own party turn against him, he can still be accused of governing for his legacy solely IF he plans a Presidential Library or IF it exceeds x amount of money to build?

Building Presidential libraries is now a given. It’s considered an historical must, and Bush had nothing to do with that tradition.

The cost might be out of line or not, I don’t know, but if the figure is expressed in today’s dollars only and not related to the value of a dollar through the years of past Presidential libraries, it’s a piece of useless information.

You can keep your freepmail. I check out folks before reading freepmail. You didn’t pass.

But with a handle like “Mr. Know It All” what would I expect? LOL


48 posted on 07/07/2007 10:36:29 AM PDT by txrangerette (Congressman Duncan Hunter for POTUS...check him out!!)
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To: txrangerette

I didn't say he was "governing according to his legacy." I said that he was concerned about his legacy. It's common knowledge that the library is to be a legacy-polishing institute. An enormous quantity of the funds are dedicated to a "think-tank" that is tasked with publishing papers detailing what a genius Bush was. Yes, every President has a library. This one is different than the rest, however.

As for my mail, I still love your answer on Cinco de Mayo and you're still my hero for the day, so there! :-P

50 posted on 07/07/2007 10:41:48 AM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Term Limits: Stop us before we vote again!)
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To: em2vn
>>>>>... “W” is nearing Jimmy Carter status for ineptitude.

Bush`s biggest problem has been his inability to communicate with the American people. Dubya also has a severe stubborn streak, and while that may serve him well in standing steadfast against the forces of terrorism, works against him most of the time. Leaving mnay people to think Bush just doesn't care.

On policy matters, Bush like his Father is a manager of governemnt affairs. Conservative on some issues and liberal on others. Even though Bush`s social conservatism, tax cuts and tough stance in the WOT, have all been a been a big plus, most conservatives have been disappointed with his big government Republicanism, expanding the welfare state and liberal immigration policy.

Some Freepers think Bush is gonna go down as a great POTUS, in the historic context of Harry Truman. Lets not forget, Truman ran from Korea, stuck to FDR`s New Deal by advancing what he called the "Fair Deal", that included nationalized health care. And Truman was a liberal.

History has been hard on the Carter legacy and Jimmah was a liberal Democrat. Just like most media-press people are liberal, most historians are liberal too. Right now I'd say Dubya has a long way to go in a short time period, to repair his Presidency. Bush`s legacy, is America's legacy.

51 posted on 07/07/2007 10:46:16 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Mr. Know It All
rageaholic commented that "liberals are all about nation building, and creating new big government agencies." Iraq: most ambitious nation-building exercise in U.S. history. DHS: largest bureaucracy ever created.

Bingo.

52 posted on 07/07/2007 11:04:37 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: MNJohnnie

You are demonstrating a very selective memory. The Federal Government has had its greatest expansion under “W”. He turned over the writing of a new education bill to Ted Kennedy. He nominated Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court and only pulled her nomination when he conservative bases called him to task. He kept Geo. Tenent, Clinton’s head of the CIA, a move that has haunted him and this nation for years.
His immigration disaster is well documented on FR. He refuses to keep Mexican truckers from rolling into our nation even though there is no way to certify the ability of the drivers or the safety status of each vehicle.
He has fully supported an increase in H1-B visas to the detriment of our own IT work forces.
“W” is an elitist, big business, country club, the working man be damned Republican.
He has refused to order the horse s(*t rules of engagement that are getting our troops in Iraq needlessly killed,changed.
He allows a disgrace like the Haditha (sp) court martials to continue when a real leader would overule the military authorities and set the Marines and one sailor free. He pulled the rug out from under General Peter Pace when threatened by the Democrats if General was re-nominated as Chief of the Joint Chiefs, mere days after assuring the General he would be re-nominated.
He sent our troops into a war that was necessary, without a clear plan for securing the country. He kept Rumsfeld’s dead hand on the affairs of Sec. Def. far too long. He allowed a State Deapartment functionary named Bremmer to disband the Iraqi military and send them home to fend for themselves and they are now the very people we are fighting. If the Iraqi military had been kept in place, and paid, they would be doing the fighting that our boys continue to do.
As to your last paragraph. You can send me a private e-mail and we can arrange a meeting where you can repeat your statement to my face.


53 posted on 07/07/2007 11:04:40 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: Kaslin

lol, the clintoons are still trying to figure out what happened during their term.


54 posted on 07/07/2007 11:06:24 AM PDT by television is just wrong (Amnesty is when you allow them to return to their country of origin without prosecution.take the get)
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To: Old_Mil

yes, it certainly is. The immigration fiasco sealed it for me. I still suppor the President and the war and mostly our military troops but...that’s it.


55 posted on 07/07/2007 11:08:35 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: em2vn
When did this legacy crap come into presidential decision making?

When it became Bill Clintons sole obsession..

56 posted on 07/07/2007 11:13:35 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: Mr. Know It All
That must be why he's spending half a billion dollars on his Presidential Library. Maybe it will include a pyramid.

He is?

Interesting name< you have here

57 posted on 07/07/2007 11:18:26 AM PDT by Kaslin (Fred Thompson for President 2008)
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To: MNJohnnie

You know when the left, and that includes the MSM has a hissy fit over the president’s commuting Libby, he was right


58 posted on 07/07/2007 11:20:42 AM PDT by Kaslin (Fred Thompson for President 2008)
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To: em2vn
When did this legacy crap come into presidential decision making?

By and large it doesn't. The only past presidents in my lifetime who had a conscious desire to create a certain legacy were LBJ (The Great Society) and Clinton. "This legacy crap" as you rightly call it, definitely dominated the narcissistic cesspool of the clintonoid regime--his decrepit "Bridge to the 21st Century," getting some hack to call the phoney war in Kosovo as Clinton's "Churchillian Moment," his shameless, rancid effort to mount a campaign for a Nobel Peace Prize. .

Bush definitely wants to leave a legacy of democracy and freedom in the Middle East. But I don't see him letting his place in history dominate his decisions.

59 posted on 07/07/2007 11:20:47 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: ozzymandus

Like I said in another post the president is not concerned about polls or his legacy. He always did and still does what he thinks and thought is right for the country


60 posted on 07/07/2007 11:26:33 AM PDT by Kaslin (Fred Thompson for President 2008)
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