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FDA rebuffs call for aspartame probe
CNN ^ | 06.30.07

Posted on 07/06/2007 9:11:02 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
HA...tell that to the surgeons and the patients with benign brain tumors....what’s the makeup of those tumors...aspartame....
101 posted on 07/07/2007 10:02:52 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
With regard to obesity and aspartame, the Trocho Study in Barcelona in l998 showed that the formaldehyde converted from the free methyl alcohol accumulates in the cells and damages DNA with most toxicity in the liver but substantial toxicity in the adipose tissue or fat cells. Further a recent epidemiological study by Sharon Fowler at the University of Texas in 2005 linked diet drinks with obesity.

In the Congressional Record, Senate, S - 5511, May 7, l985, and part of the protest of the National Soft Drink Assn, now American Beverage, is this Statement:

"Aspartame has been demonstrated to inhibit the carbohydrate-induced synthesis of the neurotransmitter serotonin (Wurtman affidavit). Serotonin blunts the sensation of craving carbohydrates and this is part of the body's feedback system that helps limit consumption of carbohydrate to appropriate levels. Its inhibition by aspartame could lead to the anomalous result of a diet product causing increased consumption of carbohydrates."

So as far as product liability is concerned you have companies marketing an addictive excitoneurotoxic carcinogenic drug to the population as a sugarfree diet product knowing full well this is causing obesity. They also know that aspartame is addictive and that the methanol component is classified as a narcotic. Aspartame liberates free methyl alcohol causing chronic methanol poisoning. This affects the dopamine system of the brain causing the addiction.

102 posted on 07/07/2007 11:48:47 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Coleus

Damn! These morons never give up. This argument is over 30 years old.


103 posted on 07/07/2007 2:58:24 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Perdogg

If you’re in it for the caffeine then consider Diet Pepsi Max — 67 mg per can. I actually drink less diet soda during the day because my “need for speed” is satisfied.


104 posted on 07/07/2007 3:04:23 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Perdogg

I like diet 7 up the best


105 posted on 07/07/2007 3:30:00 PM PDT by Coleus (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: rxgalfl

“Unless you are diabetic, lay off artificial sweetener...”

All “artificial sweeteners” are bad for everyone. If diabetics want sweet w/o sugar, stevia should be used.

Diet cola’s promote obesity. Many studies show this. And the level of consumption for those kids and adults adicted to diet soft drinks generally exceed the level of consumption used by the scientists in this study.


106 posted on 07/07/2007 3:43:20 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (t)
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To: Perdogg; rxgalfl

“More formaldehyde is produced drinking water...”

Please explain this comment - where and how in the biochemistry of the body is formaldehyde produced from drinking a glass of water?


107 posted on 07/07/2007 3:47:45 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (t)
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To: RJS1950

I like the citrus taste.


108 posted on 07/07/2007 5:49:04 PM PDT by Perdogg (This thread is 100% Immigration and Gluten free)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

I don’t remember the site. In either case, whether it was beer, water, or diet soda, all three produced formaldehyde, were only talking ppb.


109 posted on 07/07/2007 5:59:53 PM PDT by Perdogg (This thread is 100% Immigration and Gluten free)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Please explain this comment - where and how in the biochemistry of the body is formaldehyde produced from drinking a glass of water?

Don't attribute this statement to me, I was not the won who made it ...
110 posted on 07/07/2007 6:41:08 PM PDT by rxgalfl
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
All “artificial sweeteners” are bad for everyone. If diabetics want sweet w/o sugar, stevia should be used.

I truly believe that you are in no position to dictate to anyone suffering of DM which sweetener to use or not to use. As far as diet sodas promoting obesity it's not linked to the artificial sweetener but to the tendency and bad habit forming from drinking sweet drinks (diet or otherwise) and extending the habit to bad foods.
111 posted on 07/07/2007 6:45:38 PM PDT by rxgalfl
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HA...tell that to the surgeons and the patients with benign brain tumors....

Not too funny to me, since my wife died from a brain tumor 20 months ago! I believe that may be associated with excessive nicotine and tars, but have not seen any statistically certified studies on this matter.

112 posted on 07/07/2007 9:22:08 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (A person who does not want the best for America)
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To: rxgalfl

“I truly believe that you are in no position to dictate...”

Who is dictating? Facts are facts. Review the studies, and not just the studies made by manufacturers of sweetners or soft drinks. Other side effects of artificial sweetners in diet drinks and other food stuffs are likely much worse than the obesity factor.


113 posted on 07/07/2007 9:48:19 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (t)
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To: Coleus
Tests on laboratory rats have proven that milk is deadly. When lab rats ingest 5 gallons of milk a day, they explode.

Mark

114 posted on 07/07/2007 9:56:37 PM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: rxgalfl

“Don’t attribute this statement to me, I was not the won who made it ...”

Yes, I know that. Perdogg posted it in his reply #13 to your posting #12 on this thread. Just thought you might like to see my comment. I agree with your comments in #12.


115 posted on 07/07/2007 9:59:12 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (t)
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To: RJS1950

I have been an “equal junkie” since it first came out. Never drink sodas but put quite a few packets in my tea and coffee! My girlfriend and I used to laugh that we might be brain dead but we would be thin, LOL.

I am perfectly healthy and have had no long term side effects.


116 posted on 07/07/2007 10:18:35 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: acoulterfan

A few people are allergic to it, just like some are allergic to peanut butter. For the rest of us, no problem.


117 posted on 07/07/2007 11:44:48 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Who is dictating? Facts are facts. Review the studies, and not just the studies made by manufacturers of sweetners or soft drinks. Other side effects of artificial sweetners in diet drinks and other food stuffs are likely much worse than the obesity factor.

I will make sure I will pass this on to my DM patients...[embedded sarcasm].
118 posted on 07/08/2007 4:29:44 AM PDT by rxgalfl
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Holly cow, I just saw my typo...LOL...”won” instead of “one”. What can I say, learning a foreign language phonetically is the best way but sometimes when one’s tired the mind plays tricks...


119 posted on 07/08/2007 4:32:12 AM PDT by rxgalfl
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To: rxgalfl

“I will make sure I will pass this on to my DM patients...[embedded sarcasm].”

As you know, doctor, DM, arthritis, cardiovascular disease, obesity are several of the symptoms of the disease known as Insulin Resistance, and one or all may be present in a particular patient.

You also know that fasting blood sugar in a healthy person should be below 90, and typically a range of 100-125 has been an indication of pre-diabetes. Cleveland Clinic now considers fbs of 90 mg/dl or higher to be a biomarker of coronary heart disease risk.

No doubt you also know that the earlier pre-DM is detected, the easier it is to treat. NEJM in May 2001 proclaimed that in fact one can “cure” type two diabetes with diet and exercise.

The dietary modifications were able to reduce the rate of diabetes by nearly 60% and they did that without even understanding some of the most basic foundational truths of food choices. These investigators seemed absolutely clueless with respect to the influence of grain and sugar restriction on insulin optimization. The traditionally recommended low-fat diet can reduce diabetes by 60%; using a modified food choice program can reduce type two diabetes by well over 95%. There is significant evidence that the lo-fat diet success is because this greatly reduces the intake of polyunsaturated fats. MCFA’s such an lauric acid in coconut oil are beneficial in reducing blood sugar and increasing metabolism. Exercise is unquestionably also a big key here.

But you know all that, and I wish you well as you help your patients overcome one of the more debilitating diseases that have become pandemic in the last 45 years or so.


120 posted on 07/08/2007 7:33:05 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (t)
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