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To: robertpaulsen

“When the second amendment was written, it only protected the right for white male citizens, 18-45 years of age. Non-whites (slaves) were not protected. Non-citizens, women, and children were not protected under the second amendment.”

You keep repeating this. I’m going to have to ask that you point out in the US Constitution where it says this. The only place ANY distinction was made was apportionment, and not in the context of any rights, but instead in the duties and commissions of the government.

You believe that the only rights we have are the ones approved of by the judiciary. “Incorporated” you call it.

I keep pointing you toward Article VI para 2. The Constitution IS the Supreme Law of the land, regardless of what your beloved judges do or do not say. Each state had to ratify the Constitution in its entirety, accepting all the principles and rights affirmed therein. The Bill of Rights applies across the board.

And your wordplay doesn’t change the fact that the right to keep and bear arms pre-dates the Founding.

None of your beloved black-robed tyrants can change that.

God help them if they try.


151 posted on 07/07/2007 1:49:57 PM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (All my hate cannot be found)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude
"I’m going to have to ask that you point out in the US Constitution where it says this."

"The people" were the enfranchised body politic. By definition, it excluded certain persons.

"You believe that the only rights we have are the ones approved of by the judiciary. “Incorporated” you call it."

Starting in the 1900's, the process of "incorporation" selectively applied the Bill of Rights to the states. As written and as intended by the Founding Fathers, the Bill of Rights were only a restriction on the federal government.

"I keep pointing you toward Article VI para 2."

That says the U.S. Constitution (as a contract) supercedes all other contracts (eg, the Articles of Confederation), and is the Supreme Law. Article VI, Section 2, does not say that everything in the contract also applies to the states. That would be silly.

"And your wordplay doesn’t change the fact that the right to keep and bear arms pre-dates the Founding."

The right is inherent. But I'm talking about the protection of that right, not the right itself.

162 posted on 07/07/2007 2:45:31 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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