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To: robertpaulsen

The same “people” as are referred to in the 10th Amendment.


142 posted on 07/07/2007 1:20:37 PM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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To: Redcloak
"The same “people” as are referred to in the 10th Amendment"

And those are?

149 posted on 07/07/2007 1:45:16 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Redcloak; Everybody
It is irrationally claimed that when the second amendment was written, it only protected the right for white male citizens, 18-45 years of age.
Non-whites (slaves) were not protected. Non-citizens, women, and children were not protected under the second amendment.
"The people" in the second amendment did not mean "all persons". When the Founding Fathers wanted to protect the right of an individual, they referred to "person", or "citizen" or "he/him".

You countered that:

"-- The same 'people' are referred to in the 10th Amendment. [as in the 2nd]

Note that in a typically 'gutless' [as quoted above] manner, - there was no rational reply.

"We the People of the United States" refers to all of us, not just white male citizens, 18-45 years of age.
Non-whites (slaves or not) could bear arms, as many did in wartime or to protect their masters.
By common law, criminals/slaves/convicts could be prevented from bearing arms, - no others.
Non-citizens, women, and children could bear arms under the second amendment. Indisputably, many have.
"The people" in the second amendment meant "all persons".
The Founding Fathers wanted to protect the right of all individuals, referred to as "person", or "citizen" or "he/him", - or as "the people".

220 posted on 07/08/2007 8:27:06 AM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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