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Expert: Nuke terror better than even bet [AMERICAN HIROSHIMA]
World Net Daily ^ | July 6, 2007

Posted on 07/06/2007 4:23:33 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: RockinRight

“Why Vegas? Why not San Francisco, center of all things hedonistic that the Muzzies hate?”

Vegas because they’ve already said that it is full of sin.
These are nutbar muzzies we’re talking about not same people.


101 posted on 07/06/2007 8:42:10 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: CarrotAndStick
Having 60$, or 80%, or 90% of the facilities to make a nuclear device does you 0% good. You have to have 100% of the facilities needed to build the device.

My understanding (and I admit that my understanding may be wrong and/or incomplete) is that only Russia had all the facilities on its own soil to go from mining the ore through enrichment through bomb manufacture through delivery system manufacture. Ukraine had a stockpile of bombs, but no way to completely manufacture new ones from start to finish, and since they weren’t likely to get technical assistance from either Russia or the United States to fill in the gaps they decided NOT to spend the money necessary to become a Nuclear Weapons Weapons power, since it would be so expensive.

So the Ukrainians turned their nukes over to the Russians. And since it was in the Russians' and the Americans' interest to make sure that all the weapons were turned over, I expect this was verified by both nuclear powers together and separately to their own satisfaction.

Maybe the Ukrainians figured out a way to fool both, but I'm inclined to be a skeptic. If you are not so skeptical, well that's your right.

102 posted on 07/06/2007 8:50:58 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Occam's razor. It doesn't work 100% of the time, but 99%+ is not too shabby.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


103 posted on 07/06/2007 9:06:22 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Little Pig

LA was safe until a nuke got by Jack Bauer last season. I suggest Al Quida would take out a big soft target like Bentonville Arkansas with Walmart’s HQ and the true economic center of the US.


104 posted on 07/06/2007 9:07:32 AM PDT by hford02 (never give an inch.......)
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To: B-Chan

great graphic!


105 posted on 07/06/2007 9:13:18 AM PDT by VOA
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To: kabar

Easy. We would have to fight dirty with them. We would retaliate but disclaim any connection to it.


106 posted on 07/06/2007 9:24:27 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Thermalseeker

Don’t know who your friend works for, but my BIL runs a company that moves barges on the Tennessee River, and they have HIGH security. There are tons of explosive materials moving up and down those rivers every day.

Homeland Security is heavily involved in this traffic, as there are two nuclear plants on that river. Believe me, I have thought about the scenerio you mentioned, and it would be a disaster.


107 posted on 07/06/2007 9:24:38 AM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think things might be different if we made it very clear that any nuke strike in the US would result in the “disappearance” of the big black box in Mecca.

I volunteer to push the button!


108 posted on 07/06/2007 9:29:34 AM PDT by Scarchin (+)
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To: blam
What US city will die?

Mecca.

109 posted on 07/06/2007 9:31:07 AM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

Do you think that the US public would stand for such a reaction after just having been nuked? Wouldn’t they want their government to take overt action against the enemy vice disclaiming any connection to whatever happened?


110 posted on 07/06/2007 9:38:46 AM PDT by kabar
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To: gathersnomoss

If the politicians didn’t act, there wouldn’t be a live MUslim in America within 7 days.


111 posted on 07/06/2007 9:52:57 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Lazamataz

Mecca California?


112 posted on 07/06/2007 9:54:50 AM PDT by Taffini (Mr. Pippin and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: CarrotAndStick

I think Chinese economic expansion has been part and parcel of a Chinese Homeland Defence program for years.

China is paranoid (as were the Soviets). For whatever reason they think that their neighbors are threats (maybe they remember the 1930’s?). Anyway, one of the best ways to secure your position is to make it economically unviable to attack you. One of the surest ways to invite attack is to disrupt the economy of a powerful country. China is going from third world hellhole to major economic power primarily as a defensive measure.

As for the “economy as defence” plan, why do you think we haven’t kicked Saudi Arabia’s butt? Or at least put them on alert that we will, like we did with Quadaffi? When many of the terrorist in the world claim to be Saudi, when the #1 terrorist in the world is Saudi, why do we treat them so nice?


113 posted on 07/06/2007 10:05:33 AM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: Crusher138
As for the “economy as defence” plan, why do you think we haven’t kicked Saudi Arabia’s butt? Or at least put them on alert that we will, like we did with Quadaffi? When many of the terrorist in the world claim to be Saudi, when the #1 terrorist in the world is Saudi, why do we treat them so nice?

Which is exactly why I was trying to imply that nothing will be done to curb China's lust for power. Hell, the whole world de-recognised Taiwan as a nation only to replace it with China. And this was decades before the Saudis were really mollycoddled.

114 posted on 07/06/2007 10:15:53 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: kabar; All

You announce a policy that Mecca and all Islamic Holy sites and US Mosques easily within reach will be raized should any Atomic weapon be unleashed...no negotiations, no compromises. You just announce that it doesn’t matter regarding which group might have been responsible...you hold the RELIGIOUS IDEOLOGY responsible for the destruction and act accordingly!


115 posted on 07/06/2007 12:10:54 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: blam
What US city will die?

I think it will be more than one. Between 4 -8 would be my guess.

116 posted on 07/06/2007 12:14:19 PM PDT by airborne (COULTER: Actually, my favorite candidate is [Rep.] Duncan Hunter [R-CA], and he is magnificent.)
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To: gathersnomoss

I agree, I doubt the US would undertake a full scale nuclear attack on terrorist states even if there were a multiple city nuclear strike here.


117 posted on 07/06/2007 12:16:38 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: mdmathis6

And create a billion plus enemies immediately upon announcing the policy. And they will launch attacks on the “infidels” throughout the Islamic world and plan attacks against Christian churches like the Vatican and churches around the world and without atomic weapons. Making this a religious war plays right into the hands of relatively small band of militant Islamic extremists by radicalizing the entire religion and its adherents. Dumb move.


118 posted on 07/06/2007 12:19:17 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

They already are our enemies, their whole religious structure is anti Democratic and anti western...you think if America is severely Damaged these billion or so souls will rush to send us aid...no they’ll Dance in the streets!


119 posted on 07/06/2007 12:24:15 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Graham Allison is a Democrat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_T._Allison


120 posted on 07/06/2007 12:26:37 PM PDT by aculeus
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