First book I thought of when I read the above article.
Posted on 07/05/2007 11:34:16 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Why was larry hagman every granted a new liver? THat drunken idiot never deserved one.
What about people with HepC? Is it ethical to give them a new liver?
In my opinion, since organs are typically harvested only from the young and healthy, then the recipients of organs should only be the young and potentially healthy.
“I suspect this poster is a fiction writer who watches a lot of bad medical shows on TV, and his “friends” are imaginary.”
I suspect you are right.
You have good instincts. They are the central granting facility for it:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1563271/posts
Healthy People 2010
Pay attention to posts 21 and 23. UMDNJ is Robert Wood Johnson.
“Why was larry hagman every granted a new liver? THat drunken idiot never deserved one.”
well...I guess that goes along with the whole Micky Mantle affair as well.
Did he wait for the liver like everyone else?
Was there evidence of bribery or influence?
“What about people with HepC? Is it ethical to give them a new liver?”
That would be my cousin.
“In my opinion, since organs are typically harvested only from the young and healthy, then the recipients of organs should only be the young and potentially healthy.”
An interesting opinion that I’m not sure I share.
Right now it is supposed to be based on who is the sickest.
You are suggesting there should be a point system of some sort?
The younger and healthier you are - the more points.
Clean living -no screw ups - more points.
Older and sicker - subtract points?
Drinker/drugger/promiscuous? - subtract points?
So - we will be making the donor matchers into morality watchers as well?
Do you really think that will fly?
Name calling is your answer. How very typical.
I have not called you any names.
I have, however, said “adios” to you, in case you missed that.
Please be so kind as to not post to me anymore.
Thank you.
You call posters you disagree with Nazis, and post internet lies. You are unworthy of further response. You lose.
” They are not going to give an organ to a person who will probably reject it, even if they are younger or have been waiting longer.”
OK..makes sense, if they can figure the person will reject it, it doesn’t make sense to waste it.
What do you think of the concerns about people with HepC,alcholics...etc. Should they be denied organs because of their lifestyle choices? Does that figure into the process now?
And if it does - how did Larry Hagman and Micky Mantle get livers?
“You call posters you disagree with Nazis...”
Liar. I called a pseudo-medical procedure Mengelian. But you knew that. Even as you continue to lie about me.
LOL, if you and ozzy want to keep playing games about who I am and such, do it offline or expect to be called on your rude behavior.
It’s got nothing to do with morality. It’s got everything to do with maximizing potential productive years per organ. You wouldn’t give a perfect 16 year old heart to a mentally impared 90 year old with an incurable infectious disease.
My wife is the person I would need to ask. But if they were on the list and there was not a better recipient I am sure they would be a candidate. Why waste the organ just because the recipient does not live to the same moral grounds as others.
“You wouldn’t give a perfect 16 year old heart to a mentally impared 90 year old with an incurable infectious disease.”
heck no...but I doubt Larry Hagman was 90, and I’m assuming his condition was cured by the transplant.
Did he have an infectious disease?
So what I’m wondering is...where do you draw the line.
And if they cannot find a match for a liver - if they cannot find a young healthy recipient - is it all right in your book for someone with HepC to get it?
“But if they were on the list and there was not a better recipient I am sure they would be a candidate”
Yes..that is what I was wondering.
People assume fame and money got them the organ - but maybe the organ didn’t have another match.
“Why waste the organ just because the recipient does not live to the same moral grounds as others.”
My thinking too.
If we start attaching moral clauses - whose morality are we upholding and is it practical to work that into the system?
ROFL
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