wonderful, now i can go throw up my supper...
Posted on 07/03/2007 4:24:12 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru
.... but can’t they keep them in a “boneyard” like they do with a lot of the older B1-As and B-52s, as I understand it...... in case we ever wanted to refurbish them for emergency or allied use in a really big war?? It doesn’t cost much to keep them stored in the Arizona desert does it?
Alternatively, (ok, this is really not serious!) we should have turned them into RPVs loaded with a few tons of bombs and targeted them on Iranian strategic and Rev. Guards sites..... “here, Iran, you are most welcome to our old F-14s...... BOOM!”
Scrap titanium prices must be up. This story saddens me.
I still wish the President would allow the Navy to eliminate the Iranian F-14 fleet. Not because they pose a great threat, but it is the principle of the thing.
Actually, I can’t believe that Pukin is gone.
He was okay, and I miss him.
“Iran had a large fleet of Tomcats and I’m sure they would love to get the parts to make those planes flyable again.”
I don’t think that Iran had any tomcats. I know that they and Saudi Arabia have F-15s. Why should Iran want F-14s when they have no carriers?
It was an awesome airplane when it was behaving itself. It could be a scary airplane when it decided to not behave. I always felt it was an honest airplane to fly, not the departure prone airplane some people made it out to be. The problem was that Grumman wanted so much out of the airframe that it was very complex, with a tendency for pinballing emergencies. The aircrew needed to really be up to speed if they wanted to be safe and mitigate those issues.
Here is my answer to the most common question I got on the F-14. Mach 1.9 straight and level in a slick A model at 35K.
And in my opinion, that is exactly why they're being destroyed. (yes, it's cynical, but cynics are right more often than wrong when our fed gov is the subject)
"..The decline and fall of the region's most prominent business was a landmark in the economic as well as social history of postwar Long Island. It came amid massive consolidation in the nation's aerospace and defense industry, which was responding to vastly reduced Pentagon spending after the Cold War ended. Only six months after that morning in Washington when Cheney said he was ending the F-14 program, the Berlin Wall fell. What was good for the advance of democracy was not necessarily good for jobs on Long Island..."
"..Indeed, it was circa 1990 that the New York Congessional Delegation went up against SECDEF Cheney and boasted that they would simply "fix" the F-14D program the way they wanted on the hill. SECDEF retaliated by cancelling it altogether and ordering the production tooling broken up (ie termination with prejudice). .."
wonderful, now i can go throw up my supper...
No. That is the same reaction here.
A simpler solution would have been “Anyone caught selling F-14 parts to Iran will be waterboarded hourly for a week, then horsewhipped, then lynched.”
Sad and stupid. They should still be flying and raining nukes on the axis of evil.
Unfortunately when Jimmy Carter was president the Iranian Revolution occurred and the Islamic Terrorist regime came into power. At that time all repair parts and Phoenix missile parts were embargoed.The Phoenix missiles that Iran had were Sabotaged to make them nonfunctional. It seems that U.S. agents were able to screw up the guidance systems to the missles.
What are you talking about?
I’m just a punk Maryland boy who used to visit the Academy on Boy Scout trips and wished I could fly for the Navy.
I literally used to go to sleep at night staring at F14s posters on my wall hoping it would work out one day. To me it was more than just another jet model for some reason. It encompassed the aggressiveness of America.
We did the same thing after WW2.We were so good at scrapping planes and anything else from the war that today a B-17 flying will cost you up to 6 million bucks and that is if you can get one of the few (12) owners to sell the plane.The iranian f-14s are A models and the engines are used up. They are museum pieces and thats it.No motors, no flying period.
I'd settle for a military jet trainer. They're more forgiving and have a passenger seat. What's the point of a plane that can have you in the Caribbean in a couple hours if you can't bring a date?
A friend of mine had a MiG21, but he sold it.
For a while right after the collapse of the Iron Curtain, there were MiGs for as little as $50,000. Of course, you'd need to budget at least that much, if not double it, a year for maintenance. I remember this one guy with a company, based out of Italy I think, that specialized in refurbing MiGs for sale in the West. He had a review of each model his company sold.
The -17 was the most "practical" -- good balance of speed and range, and if you got the trainer variant, you could even bring a passenger along. The -21 was the one he found the most fun. The -23 was designed to take off on afterburner and refuel in flight, so he usually declared a fuel emergency as soon as he cleared the runway. Not sure if he was joking about that or not.
What would be way cool would be to make external luggage pods out of drop tanks. Then you've got a serious vacation machine. Those old fighters have plenty of weight capacity, but not a lot of stowage space.
Just to be clear, I’m not saying that he is dead.
Now THAT sounds interesting indeed! do you have any more details or links?
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