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Swift, deadly F-14 Tomcats being shredded into bits at D-M 'boneyard'
ARIZONA DAILY STAR [TUCSON] ^
| 3JUL07
| Sharon Theimer
Posted on 07/03/2007 4:24:12 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru
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One of the last five F-14A Tomcats taxis into Tucson's Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Center. The Navy plane made famous in the moving "Top Gun" was retired from military service in September 2004 and flown to its final desert resting place.
To: IonImplantGuru
Very sad to see this...and just plain stupid if you ask me. Aircraft, tanks, naval vessels, many of them with many years service life remaining are being destroyed, sunk, doen away with, when at least some good part of them should be a part of our reserve in case of a major military confrontation. Lord knows we would need them until we could get our own manufacturing and steel production back up to speed in that event.
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posted on
07/03/2007 4:26:57 PM PDT
by
Jeff Head
(Liberty is not Free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
To: IonImplantGuru
It’s terrible seeing such a beautiful aircraft being shredded but its better than having the parts going to our potential enemies,mainly Iran.
Iran had a large fleet of Tomcats and I'm sure they would love to get the parts to make those planes flyable again.
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posted on
07/03/2007 4:28:34 PM PDT
by
puppypusher
(The world is going to the dogs.)
To: IonImplantGuru
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posted on
07/03/2007 4:29:36 PM PDT
by
ConorMacNessa
(HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
To: IonImplantGuru
Did you have to show the picture of the F-14 being destroyed? It was an incredible platform. Wish some had been saved and hope the Iranians don`t have any that still fly.
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posted on
07/03/2007 4:33:31 PM PDT
by
bybybill
(HUNT RINOS IN THE PRIMARIES, SKIN RATS IN THE FALL)
To: IonImplantGuru
The work includes the recent demolition of 23 Tomcats in Arizona, accounting for about $900,000 of TRI-Rinse's contract. Am I the only one who feels a bit sick when I see those beautiful birds being destroyed?
To: Jeff Head
It is not like they have run out of room to store them.
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posted on
07/03/2007 4:34:47 PM PDT
by
Mark was here
(Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
To: IonImplantGuru
A decade ago the Navy’s A-6’s were all made into octopuses’ gardens.
I.e. “artificial reefs.”
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posted on
07/03/2007 4:34:51 PM PDT
by
sinanju
To: Jeff Head
Very sad to see this...and just plain stupid if you ask me. Yes, it's sad, but it is rational. The planes are old, and the technology is way behind the times. They were great for their time, but the technology has advanced, and so must naval aviation.
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posted on
07/03/2007 4:41:43 PM PDT
by
curiosity
To: Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; Wright is right!; ..
Must be a maudlin experience, flying a one way final flight in birds like these, knowing that after lunch at the Davis-Montham O-club you're going to have to fly as passenger in some nondescript USAF biz jet to get back to home base.
One nice thing if one works around TUS (Tucson Int'l) is that the guys in the tower regularly invite incoming 'last flight' birds to come on over for a low-level pass in review, after which the planes head over to D-M (about 5 miles NE) to their last landing.
If a plane is going into storage, the pilot and whoever is along for the ride will usually sign the fuselage under a 'goodbye' note ... but if AMARG is just going to grind up the bird right away, even that little grace note seems a bit futile.
To: IonImplantGuru
If the cost to destroy them is more than the salvage income from the scrap metal, why don’t then simply remove engines, weapons and avionics (and any other spooky stuff) and give them to VFW and Legion posts, etc.
We have a B-52 (a Dog model, I believe) on display at Orlando International. She looks great.
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posted on
07/03/2007 4:53:40 PM PDT
by
MindBender26
(Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
To: ConorMacNessa
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posted on
07/03/2007 4:56:52 PM PDT
by
KeyLargo
To: Jeff Head
Very sad to see this...and just plain stupid if you ask me. Aircraft, tanks, naval vessels, many of them with many years service life remaining are being destroyed, sunk, doen away with, when at least some good part of them should be a part of our reserve in case of a major military confrontation. Lord knows we would need them until we could get our own manufacturing and steel production back up to speed in that event.I agree that it's sad to see it, and it is certainly possible to mothball planes in the desert almost indefinitely. They seal all the openings with latex, replace the guel with oil to coat and protect engine parts, and then just park it. In the past, planes from AMARC have been restored to service in a matter of weeks.
But in order to make the Tomcat a feasible reserve plane, the Navy would have to keep a roster of aviators qualified to fly it. If the reserves were still using the -14, that wouldn't be too difficult. But maintaining enough planes to train new aviators and give existing aviators enough hours-in-type to stay sharp would be a waste of money.
Not to mention the waste of time and personnel to keep pilots current on a machine that is not in the active inventory. My understanding -- and others will correct me if I'm wrong -- is that pilots and aviators are assigned to a particular airframe, and that they spend all their training time on that one plane to stay as sharp as possible. Keeping pilots on the-14 means keeping them out of action, and we don't have a lot of folks to spare jut now.
To: IonImplantGuru
The Associated Press reported in January that buyers for Iran, China and other countries had exploited gaps in surplus-sale security to acquire sensitive U.S. military gear, including F-14 parts.
This has been done a long time before now. Back during the reign of krinton, US News & World Report ran a story on just this kind of problem. The Chinese were buying and reverse engineering US military avionics and advanced weapons systems despite prohibitions on the sale of sensitive technology or surplus items that were not destroyed beyond use. Krinton paid the Chinese handsomely by deliberately nixing the prohibitions even when informed of them by Sandy Burglar.
No mention of this...
To: IonImplantGuru
I guess my dream of someday owning an old decommissioned fighter jet is growing dimmer.
A friend of mine had a MiG21, but he sold it.
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posted on
07/03/2007 5:01:19 PM PDT
by
ovrtaxt
(The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
To: IonImplantGuru
What a waste. A sad, unnecessary waste. There must be a pylon to sit on or a gate to guard or a museum that has some space for everyone of the remaining F-14s. The PTB are supposedly worried that Iran is going to get some spare parts? C’mon, Iran could get new Sukhois and MiGs easier than replacement parts for their remaining F-14s. Cutting them up is a historical waste.
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posted on
07/03/2007 5:03:00 PM PDT
by
GBA
(God Bless America!)
To: curiosity
Clearly, for front line purposes this is so. Yet, the F-14 is still the equal of most other nations we might face and keeping a healthy number in reserve, maintained for reserve, would be prudent.
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posted on
07/03/2007 5:03:05 PM PDT
by
Jeff Head
(Liberty is not Free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
To: ReignOfError
We should have a reserve and training program to enable us to quickly train personnel. Having a resever component could easily prove needed and prudent in years to come. Once they are shredded, you have no option.
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posted on
07/03/2007 5:05:06 PM PDT
by
Jeff Head
(Liberty is not Free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
To: IonImplantGuru
This sucks. When I was a kid this is the only jet I waned to fly.
RIP Tomcats, you didn’t get the respect you deserved. It's America's loss.
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posted on
07/03/2007 5:05:38 PM PDT
by
Vision
("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
To: Jeff Head
The problem is they are very costly to maintain, both in terms of money and manpower, as is most old equipment. It may very well make more sense to spend that money on ordering more FA-18's. I sure someone's run those numbers.
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