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Top hotel cable supplier called to task for porn involvement
Focus on the Family ^ | July 3, 2007 | Josh Montez

Posted on 07/03/2007 8:22:42 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan

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To: longtermmemmory

:-)


21 posted on 07/03/2007 8:54:55 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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To: VfB Stuttgart

Ronald Reagan, one of those “old school” conservatives, appointed the President’s Commission on Pornography, which came to be known as the Meese Commission.

Video of former Attorney General Ed Meese on the subject:

http://www.fulldisclosure.net/flash/423_Meese_preview.htm

Using the control bar at bottom, fast forward to 3:18 of the interview.

Sorry for the timeline whiplash, which will obviously be a shock for some posting on this subject. This was back when being a “conservative” — at least as defined by the “old school” Reagan Adminstration — meant being against the distribution of pornography.

And whatever decisions an individual may make about purchasing porn, the issue of the original post is the propriety of white-collar porn peddlers in the hotel industry selling half a billion dollars a year of the stuff.

It’s the sale of obscene pornography that’s prosecutable under federal and some state laws, not the individual purchase.


22 posted on 07/03/2007 8:55:39 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: AFA-Michigan
Phil Burress with Citizens for Community Values has uncovered that more than 60% of LodgeNet’s profits come from illegal, pornographic movies it sells through pay-per-view channels.

Illegal?

I'd expect this kind of drive-by conclusion to come from the mainstream media.

23 posted on 07/03/2007 8:56:07 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Michael.SF.

Are you the same guy who had his wallet robbed at the same location by a pack of nymphos - on five successive days? :-)


24 posted on 07/03/2007 8:58:09 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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To: AFA-Michigan
Sorry for the timeline whiplash, which will obviously be a shock for some posting on this subject. This was back when being a “conservative” — at least as defined by the “old school” Reagan Adminstration — meant being against the distribution of pornography.

And whatever decisions an individual may make about purchasing porn, the issue of the original post is the propriety of white-collar porn peddlers in the hotel industry selling half a billion dollars a year of the stuff.

Yeah, that darn free market's really a bummer, isn't it?

So much more pleasant when we let the government make the choices for us.

25 posted on 07/03/2007 8:59:41 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: AFA-Michigan

“The United Nations Commission on Human Rights...”

uh-oh, citing the UN....Idi Amin still head that department...?


26 posted on 07/03/2007 9:00:17 AM PDT by dakine
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To: AFA-Michigan

That may all well be, but the fact is, if there was not a demand for it, no one would produce it. The truth is, pornography is an unbelievably profitable industry, and for alot of people, it has meant their path to the American dream.

In general, people who can make it in more “legitamate” industries aren’t going to be involved in making porn. I have an M.B.A, so, for me, if I lost everything today, and had to start over, I’d be just find. But, most people in this country do not have advanced degrees. Take a close look at who is actually in the porn industry, for many of these people, it is their only route to the American dream, and a market clearly exists for it. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. I personally find it in poor taste, so I don’t partake. I don’t go and try and force my taste on others.

And if you are going to quote the United Nations Commission on Human Rights, the UNCHR also regularly criticizes the United States because we believe in punishing crime. Every year, we are lectured about the death penalty, or the condition of our prisons, etc. And remember, we got kicked off the commission at one point, while they had some of the worst human rights violators on it. They are unreliable.

You know, America needs to go back to the way it was 100 years ago, before the central government decided it was their business to regulate the personal behavior of others. People wondered why we fought so hard to secede 140 years ago. This is part of the reason why.


27 posted on 07/03/2007 9:01:20 AM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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To: AFA-Michigan
It’s proven to be addictive, to break up marriages, and be a motivating factor in sex crimes against women and children.

Help us Ed Meese! The sky is falling! We're all dooooomed!!

Yes...hitting the "block" button makes it all OK. Thinking back to the 1980s - the last time porn was a big issue - something tells me your aversion to the free market and consensual adult activities isn't limited to pictures of naked people. Just a hunch.

28 posted on 07/03/2007 9:01:37 AM PDT by Freedom_no_exceptions (No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

“You know, America needs to go back to the way it was 100 years ago...”

What was the status of the porn industry 100 years ago, Azalea? Absent or concurrent with whatever govt did at the time, did society consider porn just another harmless commodity that should be sold to meet the demands of the market?


30 posted on 07/03/2007 9:04:36 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: VfB Stuttgart

“If you respect the right of individuals to view it, then you have to respect the right of the suppliers to produce and sell it.”

Your opinion is duly noted, Stuttgart.

I also note that it’s completely at odds with federal law and SCOTUS case law, which makes distribution of obscenity a federal offense but not individual purchases.


31 posted on 07/03/2007 9:08:01 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: AFA-Michigan

Erotica certainly existed 100 years ago, but not in the way we think of it as. I do know this though, 100 years ago, almost every city of any consequence in this country had a red light district, which was defined as the quarter of town where certain types of vice, primarily sexual in nature, were permitted.

Our red-light district was a few blocks north of our main commercial corridor at that time, and though, like every red light district, it died out because of WWI, all that happened is that the industry was deconcentrated. In the red light districts of those days, prostitution was visibly advertised. It was a regulated commercial action, though not in the Nevada way.

Also, 100 years ago, there was no such thing as an illegal drug, all of our drug laws are the product of the after effects of Reconstruction tyranny.

And I never said porn was harmless, but what I am saying is, it’s not the job of the government to protect us from ourselves. That’s the kind of argument people use when they advocate gun control.


33 posted on 07/03/2007 9:13:50 AM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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To: AFA-Michigan
...Phil Burress with Citizens for Community Values has uncovered that more than 60% of LodgeNet’s profits come from illegal, pornographic movies it sells through pay-per-view channels.

I bet ole Phil enjoyed his research.

34 posted on 07/03/2007 9:16:23 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (To make a conservative angry, lie to them. To make a liberal angry, tell them the truth.)
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To: OmegaMan

I believe that it IS going to leap out of the television whether you or your family watch it or not. The downgrading of our culture affects everybody. Easy to access porn is another part of the “broken window” effect in a society. Believe it or not...it has tentacles.


35 posted on 07/03/2007 9:17:34 AM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: AFA-Michigan
It’s proven to be addictive, to break up marriages, and be a motivating factor in sex crimes against women and children.

That describes alcohol too. Want to ban that?

Oh yeah, never mind we tried that.
36 posted on 07/03/2007 9:19:38 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: AFA-Michigan

Here’s a tip for travelling families. Tell the front desk to block those channels.


37 posted on 07/03/2007 9:20:21 AM PDT by herMANroberts
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Illegal?

It's written by Focus On The Family. THEIR bias is showing... :)

38 posted on 07/03/2007 9:22:54 AM PDT by gunservative
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To: Freedom_no_exceptions
something tells me your aversion to the free market and consensual adult activities isn't limited to pictures of naked people. Just a hunch.

Something tells me that you and others on this thread find difficulty being with real live women and have to find a substitute. Just a hunch.

39 posted on 07/03/2007 9:23:02 AM PDT by Hacksaw (Appalachian by the grace of God! Montani Semper Liberi)
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