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Realtors Opt For Choices (American Flag Display Causes Dispute)
The Inland Valley Daily Bulletin (Southern California) ^ | July 3, 2007 | Will Bigham, Staff Writer

Posted on 07/03/2007 6:43:57 AM PDT by truthkeeper

CLAREMONT - There will not be a sequel to the mini-scandal known in some circles as "Flag-gate." Claraboya residents, many of whom were engaged in a fierce neighborhood dispute over tiny American flags during last year's Fourth of July season, have pledged to behave themselves this year.

Tom and Nancy Telford, the two neighborhood real estate agents who planted flags last year in their neighbors' front yards with Nancy Telford's business card attached, left off the business cards this year, and mailed out a postcard to their neighbors giving them an advance opportunity to decline a flag.

Last year, after the Telfords distributed the flags, they kicked off a neighborhood dispute that escalated to a level that none involved could have anticipated.

Steven Llanusa, then the president of the Claraboya Homeowners Association, removed all the flags and threw them in a Dumpster, arguing that the flag presentation was an advertisement - a violation of the rules of the association.

Llanusa's actions prompted 10 residents to file theft reports with the Claremont Police Department, and the Telfords mounted a brief campaign demanding Llanusa's ouster from the association position.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: americanflag; associations; hoa; hoas; homeowners; oldglory; realtors
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1 posted on 07/03/2007 6:43:58 AM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: truthkeeper

If they had a business card attached....and they put them in their neighbors yard....this isn’t a “flag” issue.


2 posted on 07/03/2007 6:48:51 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Psycho_Bunny

That’s why I posted it. :-)


3 posted on 07/03/2007 6:49:25 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid./LOUD and PROUD!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

BTW, we’ve gotten these planted in our neighborhood for about a zillion years. Anyone else?


4 posted on 07/03/2007 6:50:12 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid./LOUD and PROUD!)
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To: truthkeeper

Claremont is next door. A haven for the libs in my generally conservative area. This was a good idea to put out flags, but perhaps it shouldn’t have been done in conjunction with advertising. How about doing it as an American?


5 posted on 07/03/2007 6:50:21 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

I’m with you.


6 posted on 07/03/2007 6:51:01 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid./LOUD and PROUD!)
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To: truthkeeper

I always like it when the head of a homeowner’s association is put on the hot seat.


7 posted on 07/03/2007 6:52:43 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: truthkeeper

HOA’s are SCARY! No way will I ever live under the rule of an HOA.


8 posted on 07/03/2007 6:53:16 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: truthkeeper
If the SOBs do not want an American Flag then they should be put on the rail and tarred and feathered out of the country.
9 posted on 07/03/2007 7:00:03 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: truthkeeper

A local realtor has done this for years in my neighborhood. I thought the flags were a nice touch, and the business card didn’t bother me at all. In fact I used the e-mail address on the card to thank the realtor for the flag.


10 posted on 07/03/2007 7:02:38 AM PDT by VR-21
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To: truthkeeper

“...threw them in a Dumpster”

You !$#$!#$ bastard. Little flags are easy to burn the proper way if you don’t have a way to dispose of them.


11 posted on 07/03/2007 7:04:44 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: TheDon
Steven Llanusa, then the president of the Claraboya Homeowners Association, removed all the flags and threw them in a Dumpster, arguing that the flag presentation was an advertisement - a violation of the rules of the association.

“California is Uninhabitable” Ping!


Let me know if you want on or off the list.
12 posted on 07/03/2007 7:05:09 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: VR-21

Good for you. I don’t really care if it has advertizing with it.


13 posted on 07/03/2007 7:06:23 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: YOUGOTIT

“If the SOBs do not want an American Flag then they should be put on the rail and tarred and feathered out of the country.”

So do we tar and feather every single person who doesn’t fly a flag on July 4, or just the ones who are offered and decline it?

I hope you’ve got a lot of tar and feathers.


14 posted on 07/03/2007 7:09:43 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: truthkeeper

Simple - move and then display all the flags and Christmas lights you want.


15 posted on 07/03/2007 7:10:35 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: doug from upland
I always like it when the head of a homeowner’s association is put on the hot seat.

As luck would have, the moron is on the school board, too.
16 posted on 07/03/2007 7:16:53 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: truthkeeper
A realtor does this in my neighborhood a couple of times a year. It a very cynical advertising scheme, and the day after they are put out, the whole place is littered with cheap, Chinese-made faded plastic flags.

There's nothing patriotic about it - it shows as much respect for the flag as stitching a flag to the bottom of your jeans, or printing a flag on a throw-away grocery bag.

And yes, I do fly a heavy, quality, American-made flag on all flag holidays.
17 posted on 07/03/2007 7:28:46 AM PDT by horse_doc (Visualize a world where a tactical nuke went off at Max Yasgur's farm in 1969.)
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To: truthkeeper
We had a house in a subdivision that was deed restricted. Some fellow down the street on the corner put up a fairly large pole and an American flag. He spent a lot of money on it and even had spot lights. It was a very professional job.

This was clearly in violation of the deed restrictions. His house was on the corner on the main drag coming in to the subdivision and eveyone driving in to the subdivision could see the flag.

We lived down the street and could see the big American flag waving in the wind. There was no way to miss it!

He clearly violated the deed restrictions so something had to be done about it. We had no choice. So we got together and agreed that we could not have people putting flags up like that again. Then we told the guy he had violated the deed restrictions but we loved that American flag more than we loved enforcing the deed restrictions. We drank a few beers with him and that was that.

18 posted on 07/03/2007 7:29:28 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (I believe that's my stapler....)
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To: YOUGOTIT
If the SOBs do not want an American Flag then they should be put on the rail and tarred and feathered out of the country.

I don't want anyone who doesn't live in my house putting or posting *anything* on my property. Simple as that.

19 posted on 07/03/2007 7:49:08 AM PDT by gdani (Save the cheerleader, save the world)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Little flags are easy to burn the proper way if you don’t have a way to dispose of them.

Actually, they aren't. These little advertising flags are made of a cheap vinyl material. They will melt, I guess, but nobody does this. 99% of my neighbors toss them in the trash. They fade in the sun to a nauseating shade of pink, after about a minute. Within a couple of days, they aren't even recognizable as flags.

It is what it is - a cynical, shoddy, advertising ploy, that leaves a bunch of trash in its wake.
20 posted on 07/03/2007 7:50:47 AM PDT by horse_doc (Visualize a world where a tactical nuke went off at Max Yasgur's farm in 1969.)
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