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5 dead in Virginia farming accident
AP via Yahoo! ^ | 07/03/07

Posted on 07/03/2007 6:17:09 AM PDT by Abathar

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To: Abathar

God be with them.


21 posted on 07/03/2007 6:55:33 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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To: Abathar

I miss home, but until Grandholm and the DemonRATic state goobermint (and US Senators) are gone, I’m staying in Indiana.


22 posted on 07/03/2007 6:56:04 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Abathar
I remember back awhile firefighters doing this after one collapsed in an old septic tank that had been filled with rotting grass clippings. The fumes killed one and then another went in to rescue him and died. I think the 3rd one was saved after the remaining guys figured out what was wrong and put on air packs.
23 posted on 07/03/2007 6:58:02 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Abathar
They can use some modern conveniences, but only utilitarian and necessary

So they are Utilitarians?.........

24 posted on 07/03/2007 6:58:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: SJSAMPLE

We mover here with the business, extended family, the works to get away from them. If things change there I would consider moving back to Brighton, but no way would i go there now.


25 posted on 07/03/2007 6:59:43 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: Red Badger
Nope, I have seen them slaughter hogs, trust me, they don’t fall in the true Utilitarian category at all....
26 posted on 07/03/2007 7:04:01 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: uxbridge

That will strike fear into the hearts of all these businesses who have set up huge infrastructures in dairying states like California, where they’re hugely capital intensive operations for just the reasons you outline.

I’ve wondered for years why dairymen in states with such nice climates like CA would bother putting up milking parlors, much less the huge rotaries they have there.


27 posted on 07/03/2007 7:10:21 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: wolfinator
"They all died trying to save each other from being electrocuted on a farm fence."

A proper electric fence controller will deliver a short, high voltage spike about once per second -- plenty of time to disengage. The concept of the electric fence is to discourage animals, not electrocute them.

28 posted on 07/03/2007 7:14:33 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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This, apparently, was not a “proper” electric fence. And there was ground water involved. This was a widely reported (in that part of Alabama) incident at the time and my mother also remembers the story. Can I swear it happened? No. But I believe it did.


29 posted on 07/03/2007 7:19:36 AM PDT by wolfinator
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To: uxbridge

What state are you in? Do you have any pictures of it?


30 posted on 07/03/2007 7:20:44 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Check out this website for the National Veterans Coalition http://www.nvets.org/)
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To: uxbridge
I use a mobile milking unit now...tow it out to the pasture...so I never bring the cows out of the pasture...no lagoon, no scraping manure, no smell...best investment I ever made

My mobile milking units come with four legs a tail and head and moves themselves around.

31 posted on 07/03/2007 7:21:11 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Abathar

How awful!!


32 posted on 07/03/2007 7:25:12 AM PDT by CarolinaGOP ("Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face." - Ronald Reagan)
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Going into any deep pit or enclosure can be deadly either from methane, CO2 or other gasses that can collect there and displace the oxygen.

At the minimum, they should have had blowers ventilating that pit before they went in.

33 posted on 07/03/2007 7:26:45 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Ditto

A friend of my wife’s just called from Chicago last Friday night.

Two guys working on her sewer crew (private firm) went down without gear (simply stupid) and died in the manhole.

People make this mistake constantly, in many industries.
When I was a plant supervisor, I enforced this (and lockout/tagout) with an iron hand.


34 posted on 07/03/2007 8:23:55 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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Damn shame. Very familiar with that area, family there goes back to early 1700’s and I went to school in the ‘Burg. We used to frequent the area up near the Branch for swimming, camping and just general driving around.

Confined spaces eat people up exactly like this, it’s a textbook case for hazmat Health and Safety.


35 posted on 07/03/2007 8:35:07 AM PDT by Axenolith (The Market is a harsh mistress...)
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To: Ditto

Hydrogen Sulfide H2S, a deadly gas that need not displace oxygen to kill if you smell the “rotten egg” smell its a small amount when that smell goes away then you are in real trouble if you done nothing to disperse it. Its the same basic attitude most people have towards safety that got these farmers killed it takes training to change this mindset, and farmers especially have a mind set of irreducible ignorance that limits their behavioral changes. Its too bad for these people, but I would lay money on it that it was predictable.


36 posted on 07/03/2007 8:43:45 AM PDT by junta (It's Jihad stupid! It's the borders stupid! It's Political Correctness stupid!)
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To: Axenolith

Two subcontractors were “eaten” up at the giant Stickney wastewater treatment plant near Chicago recently H2S I believe. I would hazard a guess the usual attitudes a tough guy hold your breath no need for sissie procedures, after the fact its the God has abandoned us crying shtick of the primitive (and god loves lawyers it seems).


37 posted on 07/03/2007 8:48:15 AM PDT by junta (It's Jihad stupid! It's the borders stupid! It's Political Correctness stupid!)
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