[AFA-Michigan]

Smithee, sorry to leave you feeling compelled to find and post all that stuff criticizing Pat Robertson. Obviously, you’ve got an issue with Robertson, who isn’t the subject of this thread.

I felt no need to defend Robertson, I was merely exposing the cluelessness of your kneejerk assumption that the CBN news report was somehow suspect because of your obviously malignant opinion of him.

(For the record, that was after you so miserably failed to divert attention from the issue at hand — Romney’s responsiblity for Marriott’s sale of hardcore porn — by ignorantly accusing me of religious bigotry. Which came after the embarrassment of your gleefully self-congratulating celebration of having run me off the thread...posted two minutes after I’d responded to your feeble suggestion that I could be bought off as the Romney campaign has done with other critics of his pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, pro-gun control record.)

But finally, after all the ignorance-fed shot-in-the-dark attempts at diversion, you suddenly show signs of insight:

“If people like you succeed in nudging Romney into promising that obscenity laws will be enforced by his Justice Department the way they have been in Cincinnati, he will marginalize himself and possibly make himself unelectable.”

That wouldn’t be a bad thing, of course. But I think it’s more likely he’ll make himself more unnominatable in primaries dominated by social conservatives by refusing to disavow his close friends the Marriotts’ porn sales.

I say more unnominatable because he already lacks credibility among most social conservatives — with the notable exception, perhaps, of your buddy Pat — based on his (Romney’s) long record of promoting abortion on demand, the homosexual agenda, and gun control.

Approving of and profiting from the sale of hardcore porn is just icing on an already big cake...

But here’s a suggestion: why not post a new thread entitled “Why Smithee doesn’t like Pat Robertson” and go argue the point with whomever’s interested.

I’ll stay here and stick to the subject, seeing as how I feel no need to go off on wild diversions and speculations about you and your motives — another subject on which “don’t care” is applicable — to hold up my end of the debate.

[L.N. Smithee]

Here we go again.

I've got somewhere to go, so I'll simply list the lies in your latest reply, and make a quick comment.

• I felt no need to defend Robertson, I was merely exposing the cluelessness of your kneejerk assumption that the CBN news report was somehow suspect because of your obviously malignant opinion of him.

  You felt no need, but you did anyway. Riiiight.

• that was after you so miserably failed to divert attention from the issue at hand — Romney’s responsiblity for Marriott’s sale of hardcore porn — by ignorantly accusing me of religious bigotry.

  In that post, I illustrated how item #5 of your list of questions fit multiple definitions of the term "straw man," i.e. you said you were asking Romney to donate to his supposed share of "porn profits" to an anti-porn ministry with full expectation that he would never agree to do it.

  I asked you a point-blank "yes" or "no" question that would have indicated one way or another whether you were targeting Romney simply because you didn't want a Mormon to be President. I accused you of NOTHING beforehand -- it all hung on your answer to a well-crafted question. I gave you an opportunity to provide a clear answer. YOU BLEW IT. That's why you -- to borrow your language -- felt compelled in a follow-up post to give me your history working on behalf of Mormon candidates. It would have been a lot easier for you to just type "y...e...s."

• Which came after the embarrassment of your gleefully self-congratulating celebration of having run me off the thread...posted two minutes after I’d responded to your feeble suggestion that I could be bought off as the Romney campaign has done with other critics of his pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, pro-gun control record.

  For the record, here's your question #5:

  5. Do you feel morally obligated to return to the Marriott Corporation -- or better yet, donate to a charitable ministry such as The Lighted Candle Society that assists the victims of pornography and sex abuse -- whatever percentage of your compensation, if any, from your board service or stock holdings that is reasonably commensurate with the percentage of the company's overall revenues produced by its sale of hardcore pornographic material?

  That's a shakedown attempt. It doesn't matter that you disagree with me. That's what it is.

• But here’s a suggestion: why not post a new thread entitled “Why Smithee doesn’t like Pat Robertson” and go argue the point with whomever’s interested.

  Once again -- you were interested enough in Robertson to dig up those articles saying he likes Romney. You continued the topic of Robertson; I finished it, using indisputable facts, not 'estimates from industry experts.'

• I’ll stay here and stick to the subject

  You've haven't been doing a great job of that by your own admission.

You've done a lot of talking about why you're NOT for Romney, but you haven't yet said whom it is you heretofore support. It would be interesting to know which social conservative candidate running in 2008 you think has a better chance than Romney. Maybe you think if Romney is the GOP nominee, America should vote for Hillary.

But you probably won't say. You'll just go on thumping your chest about how much smarter than me you think you are. And you'll continue to make more enemies with this thread than friends.