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Questions about Romney's ties to Marriott porn sales
Christian Broadcasting Network ^ | July 2, 2007 | David Brody

Posted on 07/02/2007 4:17:47 PM PDT by AFA-Michigan

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To: AFA-Michigan; L.N. Smithee
How about child porn, Montag? Is that also a privacy thing, in your opinion? And don’t come back with the lame, “well, child porn is against the law.”

The production of "child porn" is a serious felony, and any hotel official responsible for its broadcast should be prosecuted--the CBN's beef here is with Marriott and Romney, you will recall, and not with the customers. We have all seen "Skinemax" and their cheesy productions. This is what airs in hotels. There is absolutely no comparison between that crap and the evil and unlawful child porn. Moreover, the individuals in those production are consenting adults and not children.

An aside--how were you conceived, in a test tube? If not, then your parents had "sex". Do you wish to proscribe a manual on what methods of said "sex" is acceptable to the most vocal religious gurus in the land? If not, then why insert yourself into a silly debate over whether grown adults are permitted to watch other grown adults having "sex"?

261 posted on 07/03/2007 6:27:30 AM PDT by montag813
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To: moonman
Just because we don’t personally involve ourselves in certain addictions or vices, even in privacy, doesn’t mean I want government to make everyone conform to my beliefs. It is when government does the opposite, such as, forcing people to accept those things that is, in my mind, totally unacceptable behavior and allowing it to transfer from privacy to public viewing.

Well said. Thank you.

262 posted on 07/03/2007 6:29:04 AM PDT by montag813
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To: AFA-Michigan

Cincinnati prosecutors consider Playboy porn. They seem to spend all their time worried that somebody somewhere is having sex or taking their clothes off. What a waste of time and resources.


263 posted on 07/03/2007 6:36:44 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: montag813

“Do you wish to proscribe a manual on what methods of said “sex” is acceptable to the most vocal religious gurus in the land?”

Unfortunately it seems there are quite a few on FR who would like to do exactly that.


264 posted on 07/03/2007 6:41:05 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Dianna
Some things are so detrimental to society that it is worth using the power of government to try to stop them. I don't happen to think that porn is harmful enough that we must force adults to stay away from it.

Which was my point. As for those of you who are somehow bringing sex into this discussion about pornography, I'm not sure exactly where you decided to take that wrong turn. Nobody is, for example, stating that Marriott should be required to not rent rooms to unmarried couples (though, if they want to be consistent in their actions as a Mormon Corporation, they shouldn't) or even gay couples (again, if they want to be consistent in their actions as a Mormon Corporation, they shouldn't do that either).

However, those of you who are convinced that "porn is harmless" might want to check out this report at the University of Hawaii which correlates the widespread availability of porn in Japan (a country which had non prior to WW II) and the increases in rape.

http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/online_artcls/pornography/prngrphy_rape_jp.html


265 posted on 07/03/2007 6:57:56 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: IslandJeff

Island says “find me an edict from Governor Romney dictating either policy and you might have a case.”

See Post 163 for what President Reagan did on this issue, back in the day when the definition of “conservative” — at least according to Reagan — meant opposing the distribution of pornography.


266 posted on 07/03/2007 7:27:10 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: IslandJeff

Island: “No one who views pornography defined by the SCOTUS) is forced to do so. In a hotel, it’s an additional charge to your room and requires additional and volitional steps by the consumer.”

Interesting. No one who does crack cocaine is forced to do so. In a club, it’s an additional charge to your wallet and requires additional and volitional steps by the consumer.

Despite whatever steps are taken by the consumer, the pusher/dealer in both cases bears a large share of the responsibility morally and legally. In this case, Marriott is the pusher, and Mitt had decision-making authority for the pusher. At minimum, he had motion-making authority for the pusher, as in, “Mr. Chairman, I move that Marriott join Omni and Days Inn and other hotels that prohibit pornographic and obscene materials on their in-room movie service.”


267 posted on 07/03/2007 7:32:38 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: Timbo64

Careful, you may be the pay-per-view movie in the next room. ;-)


268 posted on 07/03/2007 7:35:05 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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To: L.N. Smithee

First of all, Smithee, an admirable return after so effectively torching yourself last night.

You write: “Thank you for being honest about having setting up a straw man argument! If only more people who do these hit-and-run threads with smears disguised as rhetorical questions were as candid as you are.”

Why, you’re welcome, though there’s nothing “straw” about suggesting to Romney a course of action that would remove him from a posture of hypocrisy.

But please define “hit and run.” Are you once again falsely accusing me of posting something and then “running”?

That would be “your own bloviating” at work again, right?


269 posted on 07/03/2007 7:38:51 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: Timbo64

Timbo, you went from admitting you went “over the line” to going even further over the line, or just being plain stupid.

By all standards I’m familiar with — morally, ethically, socially, even Biblically — wanting to have sex with your wife is what you’re supposed to do. (There’s an entire book of the Bible committed to it; pull it out of the hotel drawer and read Song of Solomon to your wife tonight...just for kicks.)

But so you don’t enjoy yourself too much, please be assured that whatever you do with your wife afterward will not occupy my thoughts in the least, much less drive me or anybody else crazy.

In the spirit of the 4th, however, I wish you success in making her see fireworks.

You write further: “I do not need a porno flick to turn me own. I have a REAL woman.”

Good for you. Then why defend white collar porn-peddlers selling stuff proven to be addictive, disrupt marriages, and motivate sex crimes?

“I wish that prudes like you would get the hell out of my GOP. I hear the Taliban agrees with your views on sex.”

No, you don’t, since whatever “your GOP” is couldn’t win any election without social conservatives.

But this wish comes after you’ve stepped back “over the line,” right?


270 posted on 07/03/2007 7:58:02 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: AFA-Michigan

Sheesh, you anti Romney types are losing your minds these days.

Apparently it wasn’t enough to smear the man’s religion, eh?

His political positions - and the noted flip flopping should be more than enough to defeat him in the primaries.

This kind of thing is so Clintonite I feel the need for a shower.


271 posted on 07/03/2007 8:00:14 AM PDT by Badeye ("In 2 weeks, I join the list of UNEMPLOYED". ...Goldi-Lox (karma comes around))
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To: IslandJeff

Romney was on the board from 1993 to 2002. Estimated porn sales during that time (9 years x $30 mil a year) = $270 million. Flynt probably did more than that.

General Motors, on the other hand, did sell more porn flicks than Larry Flynt while it owned Direct TV, at a clip of $200 mil a year.


272 posted on 07/03/2007 8:03:34 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: AFA-Michigan

Related story posted today by Focus on the Family:

http://www.citizenlink.org/fnif/A000004957.cfm


273 posted on 07/03/2007 8:14:04 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: wtc911
I heard that sometimes they even let un-married couples share a room....

No! There goes my vote for Mitt!

274 posted on 07/03/2007 8:54:29 AM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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To: donna

Among many other things, yes. You are free to watch it or not, as you please.


275 posted on 07/03/2007 10:30:24 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

You can’t watch pornography on broadcast television - so you aren’t free. What are you going to do about it?


276 posted on 07/03/2007 1:20:52 PM PDT by donna (Men are the new women.)
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To: JCEccles
And your point is?
277 posted on 07/03/2007 2:14:21 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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To: AFA-Michigan

“Questions about Romney’s ties to Marriott porn sales”

Unless he is personally IN the movies or personally making money off the sales or rentals, I see no problem here.


278 posted on 07/03/2007 2:15:58 PM PDT by Grunthor (Once a cobra bit Fred Thompsons' leg. After five days of excruciating pain, the cobra died.)
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To: Grunthor; AFA-Michigan; donna

So, if the Mormon Priest, Mitt Romney, owned stock in perhaps Planned Parenthood, that wouldn’t be duplicitous in your eyes since he wouldn’t be doing the abortions personally, just collecting profits from them. Is that about it?


279 posted on 07/03/2007 2:22:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: Rodney King

I doubt the Marriot chain would go “out of business” without pay for view porn.

Romney has stayed at Marriots so of course he knew.

I think the porn goes nicely with the BOM in every room, maybe add a biography of Joe Smith and his many wives to go with it


280 posted on 07/03/2007 2:28:28 PM PDT by ears_to_hear (Pray for America)
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