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Protesting Pastors Jailed – Signs Wider Than Torsos(St.Petersburg,FL)
worldnetdaily.com ^ | June 30, 2007 | Jay Baggett

Posted on 07/01/2007 9:44:01 AM PDT by kellynla

St. Petersburg, Fla., officials made good on their plan to limit free speech at the city's homosexual festival this weekend by arresting five Christians for carrying signs "wider than their torsos" outside the officially designated protest area.

Pastor Billy Ball, Assistant Pastor Doug Pitts, Frankie Primavera and Josh Pettigrew, all of Faith Baptist Church in Primrose, Ga., were arrested today after leaving the area set aside by city officials for protest activities. Bill Holt, of Lighthouse Baptist Church in Jefferson, Ga., was also taken into custody.

According to Lighthouse Pastor Kevin Whitman, the five men were told by police their signs were not allowed outside the protest area because they were wider than their torsos. When the men refused to put them away, they were arrested for violating a controversial city ordinance that governs permitted events.

"We had police officers tell us bigger people could carry bigger signs than smaller people – it all depended on how big your torso was," said Whitman, who, with several others, returned to the officially designated protest area rather than face arrest.

"Our signs were just standard foam-poster board," he said. "Nothing big – maybe six inches wider than our torsos. If we had just rotated them, the police would have been OK with them. But then, you couldn't read the message."

Scene from today's St. Petersburg 'gay' pride festival (Courtesy, Tampa Bay Times) As WND reported, St. Petersburg officials, following disturbances at a previous homosexual pride festival, implemented rules governing outdoor events that set aside "free speech zones," where protesters are allowed.

The resulting ordinance came under fire by the American Civil Liberties Union and the Alliance Defense Fund for being too broad. It allows the city to create prior restraints of speech on an event-by-event basis, with virtually no predictable limits. It also criminalizes certain free speech behavior around public events and authorizes the police to enforce breaches of permits – the penalty for such breaches being arrest.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Florida sent a letter last Monday to St. Petersburg Mayor Rick Baker and Police Chief Charles Harmon calling for changes to both the city's ordinance regarding the "free speech zones" and event-permit enforcement.

"This ordinance essentially gives the city the power to violate people's rights on an event-by-event basis. It's especially unlawful to tell people where they can speak or can't, simply based on the viewpoint of the speaker or the content of the speech," said Rebecca Harrison Steele, director of the ACLU of Florida's West Central Office.

"The streets and sidewalks of the entire city should be a free speech zone for everyone," Steele said.

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While St. Petersburg officials dropped the term, "free speech zone," the final modification made to the permit for the homosexual festival still retained the restrictive policy.

Demonstrators were permitted to use amplified sound and wave banners of any size, including in the restricted event area, only during the pride parade and for a few minutes before and after. During other times, they could be used only in the set-aside area. The policy for large signs and signs mounted on sticks restricted their bearers to the restricted zone.

According to Whitman, several of the demonstrators with him heard the police make several references to the "free speech zone" when telling protesters where they could stand.

Ball is no stranger to the conflict between homosexual activism and the First Amendment.

Doug Pitts preaching at 2007 Atlanta pride event

He and four other men were arrested last year at the Atlanta homosexual pride event for "criminal trespass" after walking, accompanied by several other pastors, within 300 yards of the Dyke Parade. The arresting officer, an avowed lesbian, responded to his inquiries about compelling governmental interest with an angry brush-off: "I'm not taking questions today, I'm giving orders."

Within minutes, five of the men were handcuffed and locked in a stainless steel paddy wagon across the street, where they waited in 100-plus degree heat until they were paraded through an Atlanta precinct. Ball required medical attention after his stay in the steaming, unventilated paddy wagon, and said the men were required to remain handcuffed even when they needed to use the restroom.

After a night in the Fulton County jail, the men were released under the condition that they notify the city of Atlanta of their whereabouts every month. To Ball's chagrin, the men have not yet been arraigned, their $2 million lawsuit is hung up in red tape, and a year later, the case has not even gone to trial. According to Ball's wife, Sandra, the pastor continues to check in regularly with Atlanta officials.

Ball and other members of his church preached freely at the 2007 Atlanta pride event, but others who carried signs were threatened with arrest unless they moved to approved protest sites.

Ball and Pitts are also scheduled to appear in court in Hendersonville, N.C. on Monday for a March arrest for preaching on the street without a permit. Since the arrests and pastors' stint in jail, Hendersonville has rescinded the old law that required the police chief to sign off before anyone delivered sermons or demonstrated on public grounds, including sidewalks and streets. The two pastors are hoping their case will now be dismissed.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: freespeech; homos; homosexualagenda; homosexuals

1 posted on 07/01/2007 9:44:04 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla
pinellas county, florida, of which st. pete is the seat, is the devil's winter home. it is home of the church of scientology (clearwater), hospice of the florida suncoast (largo), some of the crookedest lawyers on the planet, a sheriff's department laden with dykes and steroid junkies... 17 years there was 16.9999 years too many.

I live in New York City now, and I feel a lot safer.

2 posted on 07/01/2007 9:47:38 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Life is an episode of Green Acres. THEN you die.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Based on the “no wider than their torso” law, Rosie could tote a billboard...


3 posted on 07/01/2007 9:50:56 AM PDT by xDGx
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To: xDGx
Based on the “no wider than their torso” law, Rosie could tote a billboard...

lol. but of course, she'd be exempt, being one of the "preferred class."

4 posted on 07/01/2007 9:53:35 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Life is an episode of Green Acres. THEN you die.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

actually, I think Clearwater is the county seat. No matter; blissfully forgetting the details...


5 posted on 07/01/2007 9:54:22 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Life is an episode of Green Acres. THEN you die.)
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To: kellynla

From Saul of Tarsus to Small of Torsos...


6 posted on 07/01/2007 10:00:57 AM PDT by mikrofon (Lord's Day BUMP)
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To: mikrofon

*groan*


7 posted on 07/01/2007 10:20:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Let all creation sing of salvation. Let us together give praise forever!)
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To: the invisib1e hand
re Hospice of the Florida Suncoast: Terri Schiavo's last home. It is included here by name as reference to the fact that a very public, very slow-motion, very unjust and cruel execution of a disabled lady took place in...Pinellas County, Florida.

I have my own personal suspicions and misgivings about this organization, but I do not connect them, necessarily, to the conspiracy between media and local government which put her to death.

8 posted on 07/01/2007 10:27:50 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Life is an episode of Green Acres. THEN you die.)
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To: kellynla
I suspect that these guys will soon be receiving gov't checks with lots of zeros on them.

(Even though the target of this ordnance is Christians, the Florida ACLU has already spoken out against it.)

9 posted on 07/01/2007 10:51:53 AM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: kellynla
They should have had Monsignor Mo West with them, he weighs over 300 pounds.
10 posted on 07/01/2007 11:24:28 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: kellynla

Size discrimination.


11 posted on 07/01/2007 11:44:13 AM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

“lol. but of course, she’d be exempt, being one of the ‘preferred class.’”

All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

In Animal Farm the pigs were making the rules and that’s no different now.


12 posted on 07/01/2007 12:21:24 PM PDT by NavySon (Saying we went to Iraq for oil is like saying we went to Vietnam for rice.)
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To: gitmo

Hey, you’ve got a point. Personally I think the idea of “discriminating” against fat people is bull, but sometimes you’ve got to fight fire with fire.


13 posted on 07/01/2007 12:24:25 PM PDT by NavySon (Saying we went to Iraq for oil is like saying we went to Vietnam for rice.)
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To: kellynla

This will NEVER hold up in court. Not only have they denied the freedom of speech. They have also denied the freedom of religion and the exercise thereof.

Calling Jay Sekulow, got another case for the ACLJ.


14 posted on 07/01/2007 12:42:09 PM PDT by diverteach
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To: diverteach; kellynla
This will NEVER hold up in court. Not only have they denied the freedom of speech. They have also denied the freedom of religion and the exercise thereof.

Not to mention discrimination against narrow people.

Or should I have said; "nutritionally-challenged" people?

15 posted on 07/02/2007 11:41:36 AM PDT by Designer (the conservative movement has been hijacked by schismatic pseudocons)
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