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To: EdLake

Ed, you say that TrebleRebel’s argument about overcoming VanderWaals source is crock. Lawrence Livermore, with the inventor authoring papers on the subject with Dugway’s Lloyd, disagrees with you.

Even Alibek and Patrick disagree with you. As explained in the PhD thesis they supervised, silica serves to increase the concentration leading to greater concentration — which leads to it being more aerosolizable.

The weakness is TrebleRebel’s argument is that he doesn’t appreciate that the Dugway simulant in the Canadian experiment performed just as well as the Daschle product. And so the special processing tricks he thinks so important were not used and yet still performed like the Daschle product at 20 percent weight silica.

Ed, you quote Professor Meselson saying:

“Even impure apparently clumpy spore preparations can put large numbers of spores into the air under the conditions of the Canadian experiments.”

Now where was the simulant used in the Canadian study obtained? Dugway.

Did it contain silica? Yes.

What weight? 20 percent. (much more weight than used in the Daschle product)

Did it leak from the envelope before opening? Yes.

Did it immediately cross the room? Yes.

Why was it prepared? It was prepared in connection with a threat letter received relating to the detention of a Vanguards of Conquest shura member, Mahmoud Mahjoub.

Can silica be used and yet not appear on a SEMS? Yes, the GMU patent explains greater concentration can be achieved by removing the silica through repeated centifugation or an air chamber. Dr. Alibek explains that in small scale production, a trillion spore concentration can be achieved without expensive equipment.

Is there any reason to doubt Alibek? No.

Is there any reason to doubt that Alibek and Meselson did not see silica?
No.

Is there any reason to doubt that the AFIP’s EDX detected silica?

No. Ken didn’t even know they had detected silica until I told him. Now he accepts it. I have no idea why you have not adjusted your argument to take into account that Dr. A no longer disputes silica was detected.

Is there a patent relating to use of hydrophobic nanosilica powders in concentration agents such as anthrax?

Yes.

Who is the owner?

GMU.

Who had access to the know-how. The neo-Salafist lecturing on the end of times who was taught by Bin Laden’s sheik and was working with the sheik to hand deliver a letter to all members of Congress on the first anniversary of the letters to Daschle and Leahy. The one the WP says the FBI thinks accessed the know-how. The guy sentenced to life plus 70 years.

The guy who was concerned Mahmoud Mahjoub’s detention and speaking in Toronto in the Summer of 2001.

Join the investigation, guys. It’s never too late.


471 posted on 09/03/2007 2:23:47 PM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: ZacandPook

Given that Ken and Charles both consulted for Battelle, and Charles was the liaison for the DIA on biological weapons, and Ken was a renown expert who consulted on such weapons with a wide variety of agencies, was the Canadian report in fact faxed to their fax number in September 2001? Which coincidentally also was Ali’s fax? Anyone who had seen the report would know it likely would leak and likely would kill innocents. That would violate the hadiths.


472 posted on 09/03/2007 2:28:56 PM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: ZacandPook
Ken didn’t even know they had detected silica until I told him. Now he accepts it. I have no idea why you have not adjusted your argument to take into account that Dr. A no longer disputes silica was detected.

Your babbling makes no sense. You say YOU told Alibek that there was silica in the Daschle anthrax, and he BELIEVED you. And that is supposed to be proof of what? And why should I take into account the fact that Alibek was gullible enough to believe what you said?

There was no silica in the attack anthrax. No one detected silica. They detected the elements silicon and oxygen.

You put facts together like putting them in a blender. Whatever crap comes out is something you claim to be true.

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

473 posted on 09/03/2007 2:40:17 PM PDT by EdLake
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To: ZacandPook; EdLake

Thank-you for recognizing that Livermore embrace the van der Waals model of spore agglomeration. Also, thank-you for pointing out that Livermore scientists also recognize that weaponized spores are highly charged with static electricity.

The Ed Lakes and Matthew Meselsons of the world have now been relegated to the dustbin of history - where they should have been many, many years ago. It’s just amazing that Meselson still seems to have credibilty even today amongst journalists who are too lazy to do a simple Google search that would reveal his gross misconduct on BW affairs dating back over the last 20 years.
At least we have Ed Lake to thank for continually publishing Meselson’s warped viewpoints. Ed, you have done a great service to the media. I thank you for that. The more you write about Meselson the more the entire world realizes what a liar he is.


477 posted on 09/03/2007 4:42:45 PM PDT by TrebleRebel
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