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What's the Rush?
ProLifeblogs ^ | June 27 2007 | plb

Posted on 07/01/2007 3:27:40 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

Edited on 07/02/2007 4:50:59 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

That's the question Bobby Schindler asked in the case involving Jesse Ramirez, the Arizona man whose case paralleled that of Schindler's sister, Terri Schiavo, until Ramirez woke up. The Arizona Republic reports:

...Bobby Schindler of the Florida-based Terri Schindler Shiavo Foundation placed the blame on a medical establishment quick to dismiss patients with brain injuries.

Schindler is the brother of Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged Florida woman who died in 2005 after a decades-long court battle.

"What is the rush?" he asked. "This is not the first time we've heard of cases like this where doctors want to write off the chance of recovery, and the family, when they're told this, will make a decision to end a person's life.

"In the case of Mr. Ramirez, he'd be dead now."

Why is Jesse alive? His family sought legal intervention with the help of the Alliance Defense Fund:
His siblings and parents refused to give him up for dead, and today, Jesse Ramirez is alive and conscious.

Two weeks ago, he was the center of a family battling over of whether he should live or die.

Now, he can hug and kiss, nod his head, answer yes and no questions, give a thumbs-up sign and sit in a chair.

Related:

A Miracle for Jesse Ramirez and His Family

Jesse Ramirez Conscious, Moved To Rehab Facility

Accident victim awakens


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: civilrights; giannajessen; jebbush; jesseramirez; jgreer; medialies; parentsrights; schindler; terridailies; terrischiavo
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To: All; wagglebee
This thread from wagglebee is about respecting the tradition of certain Brazilian tribes to kill their kids. Maybe they want to be as "with-it" as many enthusiasts here.

BRASILIA, July 4, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A Brazilian university professor claimed that the practice of infanticide by indigenous tribes should be respected as a cultural practice, the Telegraph reports.

Dr. Erwin Frank, an anthropology professor at the Federal University of Roraima, Brazil, is quoted in the Telegraph as having defended the violent practice, saying, "This is their way of life and we should not judge them on the basis of our values. The difference between the cultures should be respected."

Anthropology Professor says Tribal Killing of Disabled Babies Should be Respected

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81 posted on 07/05/2007 4:34:08 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Wagglebee thread on Jill Stanek look at abortion and slavery...

Pro-aborts have fallen into "the antis' trap" by "focusing on the abortion procedure itself"? Bean, that's called "informed consent," and your people fight that every step of the way. In actuality, pro-aborts run like a hemorrhage from discussions of the "abortion procedure itself."

And comparing pregnant mothers to slaves? As Bean confessed, maintaining that abortion brings "freedom and autonomy" is not just repulsive, it's disingenuous. As a saying goes, "Everyone who supported slavery was free. Everyone who supports abortion was born. That's how oppression works."

And I've heard them lately say more than the opposite, calling preborn babies freeloaders or parasites – less than slaves, who don't even reciprocate for food and shelter.

Jill Stanek: Who are the slaves?

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82 posted on 07/05/2007 4:38:51 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Suicide Swiss style, thread by wagglebee.

Ottawa, Canada (LifeNews.com) -- A Canadian man who took his wife to an assisted suicide facility in Switzerland so she could kill herself will not be charged. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police have cleared retired Anglican minister Eric MacDonald of any charges in connection with his wife's death.

MacDonald accompanied his wife Elizabeth to Zurich and she died in his arms on June 8 after taking a lethal cocktail of drugs to kill herself.

Because assisted suicide is legal in Switzerland and the death did not occur on Canadian soil, the RCMP determined no crime was committed. Had the assisted suicide occurred in Canada, those involved could have gone to jail for as much as 14 years.

Canada Man Who Took Wife to Switzerland For Assisted Suicide Not Charged

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83 posted on 07/05/2007 4:42:44 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Rudy flipflop thread by wagglebee...

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani appears to have flip-flopped on what he thinks about the Supreme Court potentially overturning its landmark Roe v. Wade abortion ruling. Giuliani hasn't suddenly become pro-life; instead, he told the Wall St. Journal he now won't answer the question of what he thinks.

In an interview with the Wall Street Journal published over the weekend, Giuliani was asked: “Roe v Wade, should it be overturned?”

Giuliani demurred, saying, “I don't answer that because I wouldn't want a judge to have to answer that."

Rudy Giuliani Flip-Flops, Now Won't Answer Roe Abortion Question

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84 posted on 07/05/2007 4:46:34 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

The media’s covenant is to always say that her case was different which means that it was okay to murder her. It’s never okay to kill innocent people. Terri was alert and aware and they murdered her anyway. Judge Greer is going somewhere especially hot someday.


85 posted on 07/05/2007 3:59:02 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser & REMEMBER TERRI IN CAMPAIGN 2008)
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To: All; 8mmMauser; floriduh voter; wagglebee

Proof that we don’t have to “settle.” Poll #’s just before the primaries in previous election:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1861476/posts


86 posted on 07/05/2007 6:37:16 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there. http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Sun

Good point, as many fret that the bad guys are ahead on both sides of the aisle.


87 posted on 07/06/2007 3:36:12 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

The rush is that people don’t want to pay the bills, maybe, or be inconvenienced. Noble reasons [/sarc]


88 posted on 07/06/2007 3:45:36 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Once again we have a disturbing peek into the dark recesses of the liberal mind at work in convolution. But if that is not enough horror for this day, scroll down to the thinking of the people who read this OpEd.

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If you listen to their rhetoric, the mission of the Conservative movement is to get big government off the people’s backs and out of their lives, live by what the framers of the Constitution intended, and help the least of us to enjoy the same liberties as the most of us. 

That’s what they say they expect from our lawmakers and from our courts. And they’ll tell you it’s the reason they get apoplectic about what they call “activist judges.”If we needed any more proof of their hypocrisy after the disgrace of the Terry Schiavo affair, it would be easy to find in the decisions of the Supreme Court session just ended. 

The Supreme Court is supposed to be the last resort for the least of us, the one door always open to ordinary citizens seeking justice.  

So consider how the Court ruled this term

EXACTLY WHAT ARE CONSERVATIVE JUDGES CONSERVING?

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89 posted on 07/06/2007 3:54:52 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
As the left continues to boggle the mind for standing thing on their heads, they continue to rail against the judiciary. So what do they use as an example? The case of Terri of course... Even though the entire Judiciary was on their side against Terri from the beginning, somehow the leftists reversed the whole action as the stain from Terri refuses to wash off.

As disturbing as Bush's reckless use of his executive authority is, it comes as no surprise. Preferential treatment for Scooter Libby is just the latest lawless act by an outlaw administration. Add it up: stealing the election in Florida; rigging the courts in the Terri Schiavo case; tapping phones without a court order; torturing prisoners; refusing to release names of visitors to the vice president's mansion; using quickly discarded political e-mails for official government business; and firing U.S. attorneys because they refused to perform political dirty tricks. This gang doesn't hesitate to break or abuse the law. We've never seen so much corruption from one administration.

Press: Unequal justice under the law

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90 posted on 07/06/2007 4:09:13 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Carrie Hutchens' article posted yesterday is repeated today in LifeNews and worthy of a repeat for any who may have missed it. Here is more excerpt.

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In Terri Schiavo's case, the majority of people were not aware of all the facts nor the possibility that a conscious human being could be starved and dehydrated to death by a spouse, guardian, court, hospital or simply anyone. Even if one does not want to believe that Terri was conscious, Andrea Clark from Texas cannot be forgotten. She was indeed conscious, but the doctor and hospital felt it was within their rights to deem her futile and pull the plug. Perhaps if her case had been first, Terri would have had a chance.

~Snip~

Jesse Ramirez's family didn't agree with his wife's decision and sought to have his feeding tube replaced. Judge Katz granted the request, appointed a guardian and set up a hearing. This saved Jesse's life! Too bad Katz wasn't also the Schiavo judge. Perhaps the outcome would have been much different. Nevertheless, when did it become acceptable to starve and dehydrate people to death? How can anyone suggest that is a humane thing to do only to non-criminal humans? There is no logic.

The Schiavo and Ramirez cases are very similar in that they show us just how careless we have become with the lives of those who have been injured or fall ill.

The Terri Schiavo case was a wake up call!

Though the snooze button appears to have been hit, with people still under false beliefs that molded their opinions, the Ramirez case is a loud and clear alarm going off! A man with a chance to recover was nearly murdered by a society and its trend to be too ready to give up and pull the plug on others. What does that say about us as a society?

Maybe it is time to do some serious soul searching, while we still have souls to search!

Terri Schiavo Case Opened Pandora's Box for Mistreating Disabled Patients

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91 posted on 07/06/2007 4:21:00 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
A doctor comments on the Texas Futile Care Law. Maybe it is a just a bit too inflexible in addressing misunderstandings, says he...

For several weeks this spring, national attention was focused on a mother's struggle to prevent the Children's Hospital of Austin from withdrawing life support from her infant son. Emilio Gonzales was an 18-month-old boy who had Leigh's disease, a progressive and fatal neurometabolic disorder. He had been on life support in the intensive care unit for 5 months. The hospital had invoked the Texas Advance Directives Act, which authorized it to withdraw life support if an ethics committee had determined that further life support was medically inappropriate and provided the hospital gave the family 10 days' notice and attempted to transfer Emilio to an alternative provider. With the support of lawyers and a coalition of advocacy groups, Ms. Gonzales had successfully obtained extensions of the deadline, but Emilio died before the judge issued a final ruling on the case.

The Gonzales case is the most recent in a series of famous "futility" cases, including those of Helga Wanglie, Baby L, and Baby K. All are stories about families' insisting on the continued use of life-sustaining treatments that physicians consider to be medically inappropriate. Many of these cases are the product of a severe breakdown of trust in the relationship between the clinicians and the patient's family. Even in the best circumstances, physicians often communicate poorly, and this deficiency is exacerbated when the communication must occur across the gaps created by language, class, and culture. Improvement of physicians' communication and conflict-resolution skills would no doubt go a long way toward preventing such cases from occurring.

Tackling Medical Futility in Texas

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92 posted on 07/06/2007 4:27:11 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh; bjs1779; BykrBayb; wagglebee; T'wit
Sigh.... I am whelmed.

Thread by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh on someone not sitting still and accepting the "need" to harvest organs, albeit too late. Thanks, wagglebee, for the ping.

The mother of a San Luis Obispo man who died after an attempted organ donation at Sierra Vista Regional Medical Center last year claims she never gave hospital officials consent to take her son off life-support and was misinformed when agreeing to the organ harvest, according to a wrongful death lawsuit.

Rosa Navarro also alleges in her June 29 civil lawsuit that a transplant surgeon misrepresented himself as her son’s doctor, an allegation the surgeon’s attorney strongly denies. She also said she agreed to the organ donation only because she believed her son had no chance of survival.

Organ Harvest: Civil Suit Allegs Man on Life Support Murdered by Doctors for Organs

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93 posted on 07/06/2007 4:37:03 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser; BykrBayb; T'wit
Sigh.... I am whelmed.

Wow, it's fairly easy to be overwhelmed or underwhelmed, but how often is someone simply whelmed?

94 posted on 07/06/2007 4:39:31 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: narses; floriduh voter

Thanks for the ping to above article.

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95 posted on 07/06/2007 4:39:49 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Thread by wagglebee shows the impact of the issue of Partial Birth Abortion on our way of thinking.

Several key events took place during those fourteen years that have forever changed the way Americans view abortion on demand. And we can thank the drive to pass the ban on partial-birth abortions for the change.

For the first time ever, major national newspapers began describing an abortion procedure. For many people, this was a revelation. Most Americans don't really think about what happens during an abortion procedure—any abortion procedure—and to have one particular procedure described so thoroughly was truly a coup of sorts.

No longer could your average American ignore the reality or the brutality of abortion.

Helpful Impact of Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Can't Be Overestimated

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96 posted on 07/06/2007 4:44:01 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Awww. They hosed killer tiller's abortuary and got it all wrong. It is tiller who needs to be hosed. And the hosers were not doing pro-life much of a favor either.

Wichita, KS (LifeNews.com) -- The abortion center that houses the business of Kansas late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller was vandalized on Tuesday night. Tiller has made national headlines because he is the subject of 19 misdemeanor charges that he did illegal abortions and he could be headed to prison if convicted.

Apparently someone was able to get by the security cameras posted at Tiller's abortion facility and gain access to the roof of his building.

Once there, the vandals cut a hole in the roof and inserted a garden hose and eventually flooded the abortion center with water.

Abortion Center of Kansas Abortion Practitioner George Tiller Vandalized

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97 posted on 07/06/2007 4:50:16 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser; bjs1779; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; T'wit; Sun

As disgusting as it is to watch the death culters around here try to justify euthanasia, it’s even more disgusting to see them justify butchering someone for spare body parts. I have a feeling that just a few weeks ago none of them would have objected to cutting open Jesse Ramirez.


98 posted on 07/06/2007 4:50:33 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: All; wagglebee
Wagglebee thread on forces pushing suicide...

The findings held regardless of whether the patient was treated with medication, psychotherapy, or both.

The results have an important bearing on the state of Oregon, the only one to allow assisted suicide. That's because virtually all of the patients who killed themselves with their doctor's help in 2006 did not receive any treatment for depression beforehand.

Study Finds Patients' Suicide Requests Lowered After Depression Treatment

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99 posted on 07/06/2007 4:55:03 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> the vandals cut a hole in the roof and inserted a garden hose and eventually flooded the abortion center with water.

What they should have done is cut a hole in the roof, stick in a suction tube, and suck out all the contents.

100 posted on 07/06/2007 5:20:28 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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