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To: logician2u
the Office of Faith-based Initiative, what kind of Orwellian language is that? Faith-based initiative? That's the Office of Religion. The Office of Religious Outreach.

Bull turkey.

There is no values free public space...certainly not the schools.

The Faith-based thing is simply an effort to reachout to people where they are -- to use whatever means seem to work -- to reach people for legitimate, agreed upon societal purposes. (I say this as someone who has no personal religious impulse whatsoever.)

15 posted on 06/30/2007 8:47:49 PM PDT by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: SergeiRachmaninov
The Faith-based thing is simply an effort to reachout to people where they are . .

I totally disagree. The "Faith-based thing" was, from the very start, GW Bush's nationalizing a similar plan he had implemented in Texas: to bring religious organizations under the government's welfare umbrella. It was sold as a way of delivering social services that traditionally were paid for and performed by groups such as the Salvation Army, Jewish Welfare and Catholic Charities -- but now at taxpayer expense.

The worst aspect of the program is not the liberals' worry about violating "separation of church and state" by funding "religious organizations." I personally don't care whether a social worker tries to proselytize or not. Some welfare recipients (heck, some welfare workers) could stand a little dose of piety.

What's worrisome is the potential corruption of legitimate, useful social service agencies with the promise of federal funds. Instead of bell-ringers out in front of department store during the Christmas season, we'll have highly-paid lobbyists pushing full-time for bigger appropriations to HHS.

43 posted on 07/01/2007 11:36:49 PM PDT by logician2u
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