We’s should be We’ve
I’ll recommend this again.
Oh my youtube profile i have a playlist of a conference Red Ken was in that was about Jihad, called “Clash of Civilization”
Ken and his jihadi debating partner Salma Yaqoob vs Daniel Pipes and his must see partner Douglas Murray (you folks must view his part.. video 6 in the list)
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=581E170AE8760519
Pipes and Murry demolish Ken (especially Murry) and even got the London crowd to clap enthuasistically at their points.
All the points you folks are bring up are encapsulated by these speakers and the London crowd.