Babies Not As Innocent As They Pretend

The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 7-1-2007 | Richard Gray

[vbmoneyspender]

I suppose this is new to people who don’t have children.

[vbmoneyspender]

new = news

[CT]

Bill Clinton learned deception in the womb, and has improved on it ever since.

[Larry Lucido]

[Tall_Texan]

My pastor used to visit hospitals when a member had a newborn baby and say “I see you gave birth to a new sin nature”.

His way of saying that all are sinners in the eyes of God and need the forgiveness of Christ.

Yes, babies are “innocent” in our eyes but nobody has to teach them how to lie or be manipulative. We all pick that up pretty quickly, usually right after the first negative reinforcement.

[PISANO]

Next we will be reading something even more surprising, like, little boys are DIFFERENT than little girls!!

[Blue Highway]

Ah at least Bill and Hillary have something in common. They are both compulsive and pathological liars, they deserve each other.

[advertising guy]

or infants pee in their diapers because they can......

[dragonblustar]

[xJones]

Following studies of more than 50 children and interviews with parents, Dr Vasudevi Reddy, of the University of Portsmouth's psychology department, says she has identified seven categories of deception used between six months and three-years-old.

Well, that nails it. If Dr. Vasudevi Reddy of the U. of P. used more than 50 children and their parents to confirm this, we should all believe it.

[Krankor]

Gee, your pastor sounds like he’d be a blast at parties.

[LibKill]

I knew there was something about babies that I didn’t like.

[HarleyD]

All one has to do is walk into a day care center to find this out.

[BlueDragon]

This reminds me of the old joke;

What is the difference between Jewish babies, and Catholic babies?

Jewish babies are born with guilt, but Catholic babies have to go to catechism school to learn it...

[bboop]

Original Sin proved right again. Like our friend said, no surprise to those of us who are parents.

[hinckley buzzard]

Until now, psychologists had thought the developing brains were not capable of the difficult art of lying until four years old

This is false. Research into moral development, done as early as the 1920's, demonstrated clearly that babies are amoral little creatures who have to be taught right and wrong, and will happily lie as soon as they figure out what speech is all about. Psychology has lost some great research and profound insights due to the shallowness of current training, which devalues anything published more than five years ago, and which emphasizes garbage like "multicultural competence" instead of good empirical study.

[donna]

"Fake crying is one of the earliest forms of deception to emerge, and infants use it to get attention even though nothing is wrong. You can tell, as they will then pause while they wait to hear if their mother is responding, before crying again.

Is that a deception or simply a version of, "Hey Mom, come here!"?

[LiteKeeper]

It’s called original sin!

[GraniteStateConservative]

“I see you gave birth to a new sin nature”.

TT, I'd punch your pastor in the face if he said that about either of my children after they were first born. To whatever extent that the ability to lie is hardwired, it's because it is very useful for our personal survival. I can't believe your pastor actually reminds his flock that their newborn is bound for Hell because God created such a system to punish two people 6000 years ago, willfully.