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To: rockabyebaby
HAAA You are so completely clueless!

Remember that it was YOUR crowd that screamed bloody non stop murder about “We got to do something about the Illegals, they are destroying the country” for the last 4 years?

Well guess what clown, the Status Quo on Immigration, which all you claim is “Destroying the country” is now in place for at least 2 more years since no one is going to touch Immigration until after 2008.

So the ONLY thing you losers managed to do is make sure the VERY crises you are so upset about remains completely unchanged for another 2 years or more.

Talk about ripping off your nose to spite your enemies! It would be funny, because of the absolute stupidity being demonstrated by the Know Nothings on this issue, if the consequences were not so tragic for the future of this country.

29 posted on 06/30/2007 2:43:47 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: MNJohnnie
So the ONLY thing you losers managed to do is make sure the VERY crises you are so upset about remains completely unchanged for another 2 years or more.

One other thing was accomplished - 20 million illegals were not immediately legalized.

A trivial detail, I know...

32 posted on 06/30/2007 2:46:13 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: MNJohnnie
re: Well guess what clown, the Status Quo on Immigration, which all you claim is “Destroying the country” is now in place for at least 2 more years since no one is going to touch Immigration until after 2008.))0

Didn't you read the other post I sent you, on the other thread, where you were making a very similar claim?

This is about employers--and states like OK (bless OK!) are leading the way in what individual states, municipalities, etc., can do to fill the vacuum of a Scofflaw Presidency.

This bill would have put a halt to these effort, whish was exactly why Bush, Graham were behaving so outrageously--the Chamber of Commerce is feeling the heat of grassroots enforcement. I predict the momentum will grow...and we'll be seeing dishonest businessmen in orange suits picking up litter on the highways.

So we did come out ahead. Now we still have the ability to work out some innovative ways to put the heat to crooked contractors and employers.

Are you already feeling the warm?

35 posted on 06/30/2007 2:48:45 PM PDT by Mamzelle (We need a new, conservative chairman of the RNC first, because the elites are about to take revenge)
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To: MNJohnnie
Well guess what clown, the Status Quo on Immigration, which all you claim is “Destroying the country” is now in place for at least 2 more years since no one is going to touch Immigration until after 2008.

For a man bleeding to death from a wound in the belly, the status quo is unacceptable ...

However, shooting himself in the head, while it clearly would change the status quo, is probably not the right answer.
43 posted on 06/30/2007 2:55:52 PM PDT by kilohertz
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To: MNJohnnie

“if the consequences were not so tragic for the future of this country”

Did you even READ the damned bill Johnny Boy?

Or are you just spouting the same crap you have been on this issue since well before this bill was announced?

The American people saved themselves from the malfeasance of this President.

You oughta be damned thankful that the “Know Nothings” did what they did.

Go take your meds.


48 posted on 06/30/2007 3:00:29 PM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: MNJohnnie
HAAA You are so completely clueless!

We have current immigration laws. Why are you so certain that all is lost. Maybe now, as is being seen in various sections of the Country, they will be enforced. Just adding more sh@@ would do nothing. That is the clue.

63 posted on 06/30/2007 3:26:03 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: MNJohnnie

MNJohnnie, shilling for GWB. What a shock!


66 posted on 06/30/2007 3:27:55 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: MNJohnnie

MNJohnnie
Great Post. Couldn’t of said it better. The misery these “Savage” idiots have caused is just now getting through to them. Two years from now the “problem” will be an entirely new one: more Latinos, less border coverage, more Democraps in office. More Socialism/Communism big, big, government. Thanks to Michael Savage and his idiot followers.


67 posted on 06/30/2007 3:28:53 PM PDT by Blake#1
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To: MNJohnnie; All
HAAA You are so completely clueless!

Remember that it was YOUR crowd that screamed bloody non stop murder about “We got to do something about the Illegals, they are destroying the country” for the last 4 years?

Well guess what clown, the Status Quo on Immigration, which all you claim is “Destroying the country” is now in place for at least 2 more years since no one is going to touch “Immigration until after 2008.
So the ONLY thing you losers managed to do is make sure the VERY crises you are so upset about remains completely unchanged for another 2 years or more.
Talk about ripping off your nose to spite your enemies! It would be funny, because of the absolute stupidity being demonstrated by the Know Nothings on this issue, if the consequences were not so tragic for the future of this country.”

In case you havn’t noticed, the dead immigration bill was amnesty...with a few little sprinkles of “feel good” security measures and loop holes in there as big as the ones between your ears. If that bill was signed into law, it would have kept the “status quo”...and just granted amnesty to 20 million + miscreants.

I guess that’s your idea of “fixing something”?

114 posted on 06/30/2007 5:08:38 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: MNJohnnie

“So the ONLY thing you losers managed to do is make sure the VERY crises you are so upset about remains completely unchanged for another 2 years or more.”

This will be THE campaign issue of 2008. The first conservative Presidential candidate to declare they’ll send the National Guard to the border immediately upon inauguration and have a wall built by the end of their first term will be the winner, IMO.


127 posted on 06/30/2007 5:41:28 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (The Republican party of today is the Whig party of the 1850's.)
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To: MNJohnnie
the Status Quo on Immigration, which all you claim is “Destroying the country” is now in place for at least 2 more years since no one is going to touch Immigration until after 2008.

So the ONLY thing you losers managed to do is make sure the VERY crises you are so upset about remains completely unchanged for another 2 years or more.

You're not defining it correctly. It's the "status quo" of lack of enforcement of the current laws that people want changed, not the laws themselves. There's no reason why those laws cannot be enforced anytime over the next two years, so your claim is completely opposite to the actual point.

Unless, of course, you're implying that the government should not enforce current laws. Does that just hold true for immigration laws, or have you made a mental list of other laws you think should not be enforced?

"Know-nothings," eh? We know enough to see through a crap argument. Step up your game, if you have one.

129 posted on 06/30/2007 5:46:22 PM PDT by cartman90210 (Gone, but not forgotten - check out my profile page for "The Wit And Wisdom Of Bayourod"!)
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To: MNJohnnie; bayourod

And might I add - before he got booted out of here, bayourod did this shtick WAY better. He may have been tedious, obscurantist and condescending, but at least he was fairly creative about it. And boy, was he hilarious! Even those who hated him at the time must look back and get a chuckle out of it. Amazing what a little panache can do.

Come back, bayourod, all is forgiven!


132 posted on 06/30/2007 5:54:51 PM PDT by cartman90210 (Gone, but not forgotten - check out my profile page for "The Wit And Wisdom Of Bayourod"!)
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To: MNJohnnie
Sounds like you were in favor of the bill. Even though it would have made matters worse than the status quo. Interesting. IMO a bad bill is worse than no bill at all.
140 posted on 06/30/2007 6:24:01 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: MNJohnnie

What was so good in this bill that you liked, the enforcement or the amnesty?


141 posted on 06/30/2007 6:27:09 PM PDT by Current Occupant (IF YOU ABANDON CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES, ARE YOU STILL A CONSERVATIVE?!)
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