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WATCH YOURSELF THIS WEEK END AND DURING THE 4TH.

Posted on 06/30/2007 9:02:16 AM PDT by U S Army EOD

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To: cripplecreek

Heavy NYPD presence all over NYC.


41 posted on 06/30/2007 10:08:15 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek

You could be right, but a big reason they save their big powder for the USofA is they want to create an economic ripple effect. THAT is how they hope to bring us down. Therefore, New York and Washington continue to be prime targets. I worry about an attack in Houston because of the refineries. Chicago has the Board of Trade and San Francisco has the stock market.


42 posted on 06/30/2007 10:09:48 AM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: ichabod1

BTTT


43 posted on 06/30/2007 11:04:53 AM PDT by Current Occupant (IF YOU ABANDON CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES, ARE YOU STILL A CONSERVATIVE?!)
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To: PhiKapMom
Have a hunch there are going to be few fireworks in most of OK or TX as it has been so wet

Au Contraire!! It's been so dry the past few years that there have been "Burn Bans" in effect.
This year with no bans, My friends and and invitees will slog thru mud if neccessary.
Thankful for the opportunity.

44 posted on 06/30/2007 11:55:01 AM PDT by rock58seg (Change Homeland Security to U. S. Security. It's time they remember what country to protect.)
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
If I had to bet, I would choose some medium size metro area with lots of families of deployed troops, e.g., Columbus GA, or Fayetteville NC. Why attack areas full of sympathizers?

I'm concerned about some of the huge "Pops" concerts on the 4th. About 300,000 flag-waving, patriotic Americans pack the Esplanade on the Charles River in Boston every year for the annual Boston Pops concert. There's also a big one in DC and other cities.

45 posted on 06/30/2007 12:06:45 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: U S Army EOD

Thank you for the warning and taking the time to post it.

I think everyone would do well to heed it.


46 posted on 06/30/2007 12:08:34 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: BlessedBeGod

mark


47 posted on 06/30/2007 12:15:52 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: ichabod1

‘You could be right, but a big reason they save their big powder for the USofA is they want to create an economic ripple effect. THAT is how they hope to bring us down. Therefore, New York and Washington continue to be prime targets. I worry about an attack in Houston because of the refineries. Chicago has the Board of Trade and San Francisco has the stock market.’

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The “hot backup” sites for market activities would dampen the economic risk of attacks on market centers. Refining capacity, or LNG/petro port facilities would be a juicy target, but likely have better security than attack planners would be comfortable with. Without a lot of negative past experience to educate the adversaries’ planners, another “Oklahoma City” would seem to be much lower risk and, with a bit of thought and care, could take out far more people (e.g., a small team of well armed perps striking at some densely populated VT-like “gun free zone” where they can kill a lot of people before troopers can respond).

Best to not worry about it, but be as ready as the Flight 93 passengers, with hopefully better equipment, to put down any attack teams that show up in your own neighborhood, and depend on neighbors elsewhere to do their part if the attack comes to their community instead. Make every community of any substantial size into a roach hotel for jihadis. Of course, we would have to agree to abandon the “gun-free” / free-fire-zone-for-attackers lunacy ...

A sequence of thwarted attacks (even if thwarted with some casualties), in which a combination of quick reacting self-armed local residents who just happened to be handy, and on-duty local security and law enforcement workers promptly “took care of business” with minimal casualties would be the best way to increase the perceived risk to planners of future attacks. As some wartime general said: “The point is not to die for your country but to see to it that the schmucks on the other side have to die for their country,” (or words to that effect). That would need to be updated to handle our current case, where those who come to kill and steal and destroy are motivated by malevolent religious incentives rather than patriotism, but the principal remains the same. Such individuals have their own peculiar vulnerabilities to horror and repulsion: “You came to die for the greater glory of Allah? That can be arranged, and when we get done, there are some hog farmers down the road who will appreciate the cheap protein for their stock.”

Of course, such bravado would be fairly worthless if the attack is a surreptitiously planted nuke detonated from a distance, or similar WMD. But, no defense can be perfect, it can only make an attack plan more uncertain than the planner chooses to risk. So, it’s worth having if only for that. How many years did it take to plan the 9/11 attack? Several, wasn’t it? And that was after the vulnerability of the WTC was so emphatically demonstrated in 1993.

If the recent lame efforts in Britain are any indication, flawed and containable attacks are far more likely than some apocalyptic horror. There is not an unlimited supply of jihadi Chuck Norris types on tap. Those most motivated by ideology to be “warriors” are least likely to fit that description, and most likely to resemble the losers who blow themselves up in Israel whenever they get the chance: eminently defeatable by a random group of alert citizens, as the Flight 93 passengers demonstrated.


48 posted on 06/30/2007 12:23:59 PM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: U S Army EOD

Prior to clicking on your post,I had just given the kids a lecture about tonight.Holiday weekend and full moon,and what you said.Thanks for the alert.Sadly,many are oblivious to the challenges we face.I sincerely hope everyone here has a great and safe holiday.


49 posted on 06/30/2007 12:24:20 PM PDT by xarmydog
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To: Bladerunnuh

“I think the bombings were meant to test the new Prime Minister’s resolve”

Well, maybe so, but it wasn’t much of a test, was it? There’s a great fireworks display near here in Rancho Cordova, but I don’t think I want to be in a large crowd. The 70’s group “America” is playing too.


50 posted on 06/30/2007 12:27:11 PM PDT by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: o_zarkman44
There should be no more inordinate fear of the clergy.

10-4
Now more than ever.

This is one of those times when I worry if 35 rounds is enough ....

51 posted on 06/30/2007 12:28:56 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: U S Army EOD

We allow this scum into our country (no immigration control) and then we wonder how and why terrorist attacks can occur....sheesh...


52 posted on 06/30/2007 12:29:38 PM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: Mad Dawg
PROOFREAD you dope!

The line I meant to quote and enthusiastically affirm was that Americans should always be a code yellow.

Absogoldarnlutely.

53 posted on 06/30/2007 12:32:51 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Inspectorette

“I’m concerned about some of the huge “Pops” concerts on the 4th. About 300,000 flag-waving, patriotic Americans pack the Esplanade on the Charles River in Boston every year for the annual Boston Pops concert. There’s also a big one in DC and other cities.”

Could be. Accept the wisdom of Psalm 90:12, enjoy your local concert or crowd event, and contemplate the response of the Flight 93 passengers if your number comes up, and you have the opportunity to follow suit.

Or stay home and watch it on the tube. I’ve never enjoyed being in crowds myself, apart from any risk of being assaulted. For those who find crowds fun, though, don’t let the threats of jihadi schmucks spoil it.


54 posted on 06/30/2007 12:40:17 PM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
“The point is not to die for your country but to see to it that the schmucks on the other side have to die for their country,” (or words to that effect).

That would have been my hero, Gen'l George S. Patton, and I believe what he said was "No bastard... ever won a war... by dying for his country. He won it... by making the other poor... dumb... bastard... die for HIS country!"

Patton used bad language because he knew it got his soldiers attention better than milquetoast talk. And I don't hear anybody in Britain saying that Britain will not be intimidated by thugs.

55 posted on 06/30/2007 12:48:44 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: U S Army EOD

But Keith Olbermann and Rosie O’Donell says there is no terrorist threats? These are amateurs and laughable in comparison to Iraq.


56 posted on 06/30/2007 12:55:24 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Liberals : So open-minded....their brains have all fallen out)
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To: U S Army EOD

Texas is safe. Very few explosives outside of mines are successful under water!


57 posted on 06/30/2007 1:00:16 PM PDT by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: ichabod1

Keep on quotin’ ol’ George... the right way !!


58 posted on 06/30/2007 1:15:58 PM PDT by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: U S Army EOD
Vigilant Yes! Attacking America on Independance Day to me would be quite foolish. It might re-educate those on the left what the day is about. If that ever happens (educating those on the left) this period in OUR time would have been dealt with by now. JMHO
59 posted on 06/30/2007 1:26:52 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: U S Army EOD

60 posted on 06/30/2007 1:32:38 PM PDT by kitchen (Hey, Pericles. What are the three things a ruler must know?)
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