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100 journalists killed so far this year
AP ^ | June 29, 2007 | Slobodan Lekic

Posted on 06/30/2007 6:07:08 AM PDT by period end of story

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To: misanthrope

My bad. It’s Michael YON...........

http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/operation-arrowhead-ripper-day-one.htm


101 posted on 07/01/2007 4:48:32 AM PDT by misanthrope (There's only one way Islam will ever become "The Religion of peace", it's up to us to help them out.)
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To: misanthrope

LOL, I guess my sleepy brain translated it as I read it because I did read it as Michael Yon in your first post.

There’s a few others out there that are real good. There’s also a plethora of very good blogs kept up by soldiers that are there with a ground eye view.

Much of the professional journos are worse than worthless as they either give info fed to them by stringers and have no clue what’s happening themselves or they act upon their ego and give only what they feel to be relevant in pushing their own or their editors agenda.


102 posted on 07/01/2007 4:53:12 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy

Why? Because I don’t see it the way you do. The First Amendment is most important to me, and to those who vilify the press, “the answer to free speech is more free speech.” Not less.

As far as the crimes you linked, you should be addressing your comments to the administration.

And I don’t believe I twisted anything. Either you believe in the rule of law or you have anarchy.


103 posted on 07/01/2007 5:00:37 AM PDT by leadpenny
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72 of these 100 were slain, and I think Lekic is right to point out that this increasing trend-if it is a trend-of journalists being marked for death is, at least, somewhat troubling.

As for the traitorous journalist scumbags: have at ‘em.


104 posted on 07/01/2007 5:07:34 AM PDT by period end of story (You can't fight in here...this is the War Room!!)
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To: Grimmy

I’ve read a few really good, I mean REALLY good posts by soldiers on the ground, but they seem to have dried up. If you have a source for contemporary (current) blogs on the subject,
I’d really appreciate them


105 posted on 07/01/2007 5:12:27 AM PDT by misanthrope (There's only one way Islam will ever become "The Religion of peace", it's up to us to help them out.)
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To: leadpenny

And what do you have when those who’s duty it is to provide the information necessary to keep the public informed have given their allegiance to the enemy during a time of war?

And what do you have when those who’s duty it is to safe guard our nation from such abusers of such trust wont act?

We’re stuck in a problem that has no clean or easy solution. That much is obvious.

Just remember, those you are so strenuously defending here are the only hope our enemy has of victory.

Who is it that works so hard at wearing us down and eroding our resolve in standing against our enemy?

Who is it that uses their privilege to give aid and comfort to the enemy by disclosing or purposely mischaracterizing our efforts to defend ourselves?

Who was it that went and took a video manufactured by a known insurgent about a fight in Haditha, turned it into a propaganda smear against our forces and got some of our Marines locked up for simply doing their duty?

That’s just one example. There are a cornucopia of examples available. The rarity is a professional journalist that tells the truth and does not act as if obligated to work for the victory of our enemy.

This is an industry that is populated by persons still proud of the “victory” against the US in Vietnam and totally ignores the millions that died as a result of the gross betrayals committed by them while they abused their privileges as journalists to sell their own political agenda.


106 posted on 07/01/2007 5:15:43 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: leadpenny

Wrong! I was there in ‘67-’68 at Phu Bai and points north around Dong Ha, Khe Sahn, some south around Danang, An Hoa, etc. With 1stMAW, MAG36, a gunship pilot in a Marine gunship squadron. And, I am proud of every minute of my service, unlike you obviously are. You seem to me to exemplify exactly what the “glorious and unbiased” media’s goal is, i.e., to disparage everything/anything that the U.S. armed forces do a la Abu Ghraib(fraternity pledge initiation hazing); Gitmo(paradise for a bunch of terrorists); Haditha(looking more and more like nothing there)until they have destroyed support for US efforts.

And, if you think the fact that ,35-40 years after an event of My Lai’s nature, I am not still crying about it equates to defense of whatever happened there, go ahead. I didn’t have anything to do with. It happened, and I’m not going to cry about it. I did my job and would do so again given the opportunity; but, the Marine Corps won’t re-up a 64 year old former helo gunship pilot for Iraq.


107 posted on 07/01/2007 5:41:35 AM PDT by izzatzo
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To: period end of story
I can think of a few that needs to be turned out to pasture here in the United states of America.

Turned out not under.

Somehow I just do not have as much sadness in my heart for reporters as I do for the deaths of our young military.

Hey you liberal anti-American hating MSM, how about a little support for your own country.

108 posted on 07/01/2007 5:46:26 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: TXnMA

Yep, you bet. I’ll never forget the media for keeping that in the limelight. Just between us regular folks which do you think is worse, putting panties on somebody’s head (something which Kennedys do regularly at parties) or cutting someone’s head off. Unless it’s a reporter we don’t talk about the bad guys cutting off heads. I have no remorse when I hear about media people being killed in battle.


109 posted on 07/01/2007 5:54:41 AM PDT by Plains Drifter (If guns kill people, wouldn't there be a lot of dead people at gun shows?)
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To: izzatzo

I see you’ve edited your “about” page. I read “era” before. No offense intended.

I was driving hueys out of Pleiku in 67 and in your neck of the woods in 69/70, and I’m sure I’m just as proud of my service as you are of yours.

As for the press, do you remember sipping a few at the Marble Mountain O Club while discussing bias in the media? I sure don’t. In fact, in my 21+ years in the Army I can’t remember any discussion anywhere at any time about the press. As a soldier I never figured it was my job. And it wasn’t.

I’m not crying about My Lai 4, but I wore the uniform at that time and I believe it reflected on my Army.

“the Marine Corps won’t re-up a 64 year old former helo gunship pilot for Iraq.”

I can’t imagine the Army would take any leadpennies either.


110 posted on 07/01/2007 6:44:08 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Grimmy

The first amendment also does not give the media the right to promote fake stories. The US military should send the bastards packing. I want us to win this war and I don’t give a damn about the press. They have proved themselves unreliable and treasonous.


111 posted on 07/01/2007 7:09:31 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: period end of story
A neutral, blank slate, reaction to this is that war reporting is dangerous. That seems pretty obvious, and has no ideological implication.

But I think all parties have a slant. Liberals, to include many liberal journalists, place blame on the United States. They always do. That is their MO. That is not the way I see it, of course.

I think the terrorists and many journalists share anti-americanism and have a common antipathy to the American soldier. But journalists should remember that, despite the important values they may have in common with Muslim terrorists, they are still infidels to some of the people that they care most deeply about.

112 posted on 07/01/2007 7:14:15 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Reagan defeated the Russian communist empire despite the news industry and the Democratic party)
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To: leadpenny
“How anyone takes seriously anything you have to say boggles my feeble mind.”

Your self assessment is the only thing you’ve gotten right in your posts.

113 posted on 07/01/2007 7:22:31 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Reagan defeated the Russian communist empire despite the news industry and the Democratic party)
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To: Jedidah
“This thread is an example of how low FR has sunk. Sounds more and more like DU.”

I wouldn’t blame you if you never came back.

114 posted on 07/01/2007 7:28:39 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Reagan defeated the Russian communist empire despite the news industry and the Democratic party)
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To: leadpenny

Yes, I edited it because I looked at it and wanted to make sure that it reflected that I was a veteran of the conflict and not just a veteran of that era. A previous posting on this forum indicating some confusion about Viet Vet versus “era” vet precipitated the change. But, if you noticed that, you noticed that I had “Viet vet/era vet” which is technically true because I served from ‘65-’76 in the USMCR not including PLC training in ‘64. My active duty was from ‘65 until ‘69.

As for Marble Mountain “O” Club, I transitted MM several times, but never went to the Club. For us pukes farther north, MM was considered “in country” R&R. And, I surely never met any members of the press anywhere during my entire tour and there weren’t discussions about it. Besides, media bias wasn’t an issue in those days like it is now. And, it didn’t become an issue with me until after I got back and saw how the reportage was. You should know as well as I that the ‘60’s generated a lot of this leftist radicalism, particularly in the press.

As for discussions about media bias not being your job as a soldier, from some of the comments I read from various sources, indications are that more than one AD serviceman are not conforming to your standard; and, I say more power to them, let them voice the criticism the press deserves from an appropriate source.


115 posted on 07/01/2007 7:33:20 AM PDT by izzatzo
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To: ChessExpert

I wear your stupid reaction like a badge of honor.


116 posted on 07/01/2007 7:38:21 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
“no one should condone what took place at AG or My Lai.”

Of course not. And let us not forget the few reporters who reported on Stalin’s Ukrainian holocaust. It is amazing how little press that has received over the years. After all, one might think the intentional eradication of five to ten million people might have received more reporting by our professional news corps. The New York Times is proud, to this day, for the Pulitzer prize they earned for their reporting. Clearly, the press knows best, as they always have.

117 posted on 07/01/2007 7:43:58 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Reagan defeated the Russian communist empire despite the news industry and the Democratic party)
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To: period end of story
Number and Rate of Fatal Injury Stats by Occupationa

Page 10 of the pfd file has the chart. I put the info in for comparison purposes.

118 posted on 07/01/2007 7:47:39 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: period end of story

I guess that means there are 87 less Liberals in the world today.


119 posted on 07/01/2007 7:49:55 AM PDT by rock58seg (Change Homeland Security to U. S. Security. It's time they remember what country to protect.)
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To: izzatzo

I was based out of Hue, Phu Bai for the first half of my second tour. Once the Army’s 24th Corps took over responsibility for I Corps from III MAF, my unit moved to MM. In any case, I know all of I Corps like the back of my hand.

We’ll just have to differ on what active duty personnel should be publicly speaking about.


120 posted on 07/01/2007 7:51:15 AM PDT by leadpenny
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