Posted on 06/29/2007 8:32:01 AM PDT by gondramB
The U.S. Senate definitively rejected President George Bush's immigration bill on Thursday, just hours after senators expressed deep misgivings with portions that would have expanded the use of a national ID card.
Because the procedural vote was 46 to 53, with 60 votes needed to advance the immigration legislation, the proposal is likely to remain dead for the rest of the year.
Privacy advocates were quick to claim that a vote against Real ID cards the previous evening doomed the bill.
Wednesday's vote showed that senators were willing to delete the portion of the labyrinthine immigration bill that would require employers to demand the Real ID cards from new hires. Because some of the bill's backers had insisted that the ID requirement remain in place--as a way to identify illegal immigrants--they were no longer as willing to support the overall bill.
"The proponents of national ID in the Senate weren't getting what they wanted, so they backed away," said Jim Harper, a policy analyst at the free-market Cato Institute who opposes Real ID. "It was a landmine that blew up in their faces."
In a press release, the two Montana Democrats, Max Baucus and Jon Tester, said they were happy that a pro-privacy approach killed the bill. "If Jon and I just brought down the entire bill, that's good for Montana and the country," said Baucus, who cosponsored the amendment deleting the employer verification rule.
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The media keeps calling this the Bush immigration bill that failed. President Bush supported and worked to get it passed but it was and is the Democrat & Rino immigration bill. If it had passed the media would be calling it the Democrat freedom for immigrants bill.
It could be used to identify legitimate voters and prevent vote fraud.
Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
with an RFID chip in the National ID card, they can read wherever the card goes.....same as the new passports, etc.
there are clothing companies that already implant these RFID chips into their clothing, and know when their clothes visit different stores (though those white gates you see at the doors)..
I agree! These idiots are now trying to get credit for themselves for the hard work of others. Typical DemonRat ploy. National ID cards took a big back seat to amnesty. It wasn't even on the radar screen.
One FReeper has a tag line along the lines of 'I type, therfore I misspell'.
I don't want someone fired on the spot over a typo.
Cato is behind totally open borders as a matter of personal "liberty," never mind what that does to representative government. They're a pack of grant mongering idiots.
Meanwhile, other cities, like L.A. and 'frisco, will hang onto their sanctuary status and probably find themselves faced with protest from both sides. (OK, not SF)
They still don’t get it. Read the Belmont Club which blows this argument to smithereens.
I really don’t understand the process but Senator DeMint was on the Laura Ingraham radio show this morning and also credited the Baucus amendment with the downfall of the bill.
Somehow, when the amendment passed it created a wedge to lure others to a NO to cloture.
I agree and I don’t support this national ID.
Hmm, I was unaware of this. I'll have to do some reading on CATO in regards to this subject.
Cato scholar Daniel Griswold argues, "The bill before the Senate was flawed in many ways. The number of temporary worker visas was insufficient, its interior enforcement provisions too intrusive, the point system too convoluted. But the bill was at least pointing in the right direction. The Republicans who brought the bill down have yet to put forward any practical and principled alternative."
Take note of the last sentence: "The Republicans who brought the bill down have yet to put forward any practical and principled alternative."
On the contrary. they did just the opposite. They said current laws should be enforced and border security beefed up many times. Both of these are practical. And I would ask Mr. Griswold what is it that he considers "not principled" in demanding enforcement of our [properly passed] laws?
Here is a spreadsheet of immigration votes with some statistics/analysis
Excel 2003: http://www.sendspace.com/file/ou6kwa
Excel 2007: http://www.sendspace.com/file/21i5ps
I hope this helps your emails/notes/faxes etc. to those who helped and those who hurt...it is critical that you know how your senators voted so that they can be properly held accountable at election time in 1, 3, or 5 years. Let the good guys know how much you appreciate their efforts, and let the bad guys know that their actions on this bill will haunt them forever.
Real ID? Real bad IDea!
AMNESTY killed this bill with the help of FR and talk radio!!!...
People are tired of carrying America's own deadwood - they certainly don't want to start carrying those from other countries as well.
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