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To: ProCivitas; raybbr
How does that explain Hannity and Rush calling this a 'democrat' bill?

I haven't been following Hannity and Rush, but what you describe sounds like they're trying to cover for Jorge much as the LeftistMedia covers/distorts for the Demrats.


Rush HAS discussed his disbelief that W is for this awful bill. Rush has tied it primarily to Kennedy because Kennedy has been involved in bad immigration legislation since the 1960's. My bewilderment stems from the fact that W keeps going to Kennedy, a man that said America has reopened Saddam's torture chambers under new management in light of the Abu Ghraib photos.

But Hannity has been all over this like flies on crap. He has criticized everyone. He went toe to toe with Tony Snow and Chertoff. IMO, Chertoff should be canned immediately. We cannot wait 18 months for this man to be replaced. He has had funds available for months now to start building the 700 miles of fence.

What amazes me in this whole debate is that the White House and many Senators could not understand one of our biggest concerns which is the fact that we wanted them to demonstrate that they would close our borders FIRST so that in the event that a lousy bill gets signed, we will at least not have another 12-20 million illegals pouring over our border. This is the part that was not done MANY times in the past and the reason why we are even having this debate now. If our Government would have followed through on Kennedy's promise made in 1986, "This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this", things may be different today.

But the reality is that people of this country are sick and tired of double-speak. They are tired of hearing one thing and then getting another. They are tired of politicians who make it to Washington and then try to screw the American people through legislation. They are tired of dealing with politicians who try to exact revenge on us for some personal reason, like they were denied the Presidency.

Here is a great thread on the 50 years of immigration failures surrounding Ted Kennedy and others: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1836487/posts
133 posted on 06/29/2007 6:29:01 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (The United States of America is the only country strong enough to go it alone.)
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To: Kerretarded
Rush HAS discussed his disbelief that W is for this awful bill. Rush has tied it primarily to Kennedy because Kennedy has been involved in bad immigration legislation since the 1960's. My bewilderment stems from the fact that W keeps going to Kennedy, a man that said America has reopened Saddam's torture chambers under new management in light of the Abu Ghraib photos.

But Hannity has been all over this like flies on crap. He has criticized everyone. He went toe to toe with Tony Snow and Chertoff. IMO, Chertoff should be canned immediately. We cannot wait 18 months for this man to be replaced. He has had funds available for months now to start building the 700 miles of fence.

Yes. Recently. Bush has been pushing for something like this since he got into office. Only recently, when it became popular to oppose this type of legislation did they jump in.

Look to Savage and others that have been fighting to have our borders closed for decades.

To wit:

The Path to National Suicide by Lawrence Auster (1990)

An essay on multi-culturalism and immigration.

Click the Pic!!!!

Excerpt....

How can we account for this remarkable silence? The answer, as I will try to show, is that when the Immigration Reform Act of 1965 was being considered in Congress, the demographic impact of the bill was misunderstood and downplayed by its sponsors. As a result, the subject of population change was never seriously examined. The lawmakers’ stated intention was that the Act should not radically transform America’s ethnic character; indeed, it was taken for granted by liberals such as Robert Kennedy that it was in the nation’s interest to avoid such a change. But the dramatic ethnic transformation that has actually occurred as a result of the 1965 Act has insensibly led to acceptance of that transformation in the form of a new, multicultural vision of American society. Dominating the media and the schools, ritualistically echoed by every politician, enforced in every public institution, this orthodoxy now forbids public criticism of the new path the country has taken. “We are a nation of immigrants,” we tell ourselves— and the subject is closed. The consequences of this code of silence are bizarre. One can listen to statesmen and philosophers agonize over the multitudinous causes of our decline, and not hear a single word about the massive immigration from the Third World and the resulting social divisions. Opponents of population growth, whose crusade began in the 1960s out of a concern about the growth rate among resident Americans and its effects on the environment and the quality of life, now studiously ignore the question of immigration, which accounts for fully half of our population growth.

This curious inhibition stems, of course, from a paralyzing fear of the charge of “racism.” The very manner in which the issue is framed—as a matter of equal rights and the blessings of diversity on one side, versus “racism” on the other—tends to cut off all rational discourse on the subject. One can only wonder what would happen if the proponents of open immigration allowed the issue to be discussed, not as a moralistic dichotomy, but in terms of its real consequences. Instead of saying: “We believe in the equal and unlimited right of all people to immigrate to the U.S. and enrich our land with their diversity,” what if they said: “We believe in an immigration policy which must result in a staggering increase in our population, a revolution in our culture and way of life, and the gradual submergence of our current population by Hispanic and Caribbean and Asian peoples.” Such frankness would open up an honest debate between those who favor a radical change in America’s ethnic and cultural identity and those who think this nation should preserve its way of life and its predominant, European-American character. That is the actual choice—as distinct from the theoretical choice between “equality” and “racism”—that our nation faces. But the tyranny of silence has prevented the American people from freely making that choice.

145 posted on 06/29/2007 6:38:23 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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